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'True is still true' assumes that there is 'a' truth, though, let alone whether or not it's knowable.

yes. knowing it or not doesnt change it. that is what i believe. which so far has been about the only statement of opinion here. poke holes in my argument all day, i dont have the language or education to say it any different or prove it. i still believe it. noone else has said what they actually believe, only said that i am (possibly) wrong.

You just keep asserting that reality 'is' – a common-sense position which isn't much fun in these sorts of arguments.

yes i suppose i am, and i know its becomming a bore. whatever "is" is. it may be a common sense position but it is the one which i understand and grasp.

I have been careful not to propose anything like a 'subjective reality' – my point is just that it is not self-evident that there is an objective one.[/quote]

sorry, i kind of assumed that thats what you were saying, my mistake.

Yes, I am a 'lady'. Which doesn't exempt me from alpha-male posturing, I don't think. I am just waving a Freudian lack-of-willy instead of a real one :(

um, not wanting to open up a whole can of gender argument worms here, but yes it does exempt you from actual alpha male posturing. you can mimick it, but if you arent an alpha male, it will never be alpha male posturing. just the way we use language i guess, so yea, you can do it, you arnt exempt from doing it ,but it will never be it because of the boy/girl differences. its the concessions we make in our use of language...e.g. s/he's a retard.. well no, maybe acting like a retard, but actually being retarded is something else. i think im being picky here. sorry.

i am happy to admit i may be getting out of my depth here, my language and education can only go so far with these things as i mentioned above.

as a side note, i dont like this alpha male stuff. im not really sure what it is and it feels a bit dirty, almost like peopple would think that i see myself as alpha male or something just cos im contributing.