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whatever "is" is; be that the objective reality which i see or believe in or whatever, or a subjective reality which you propose; my view on it, nor yours, nor the whole population of the worlds views, do not change what "is" is in actuality. a pot of salt, which is green, for example. like i touched on earlier, the language which we use to describe things may be different from the reality, but the reality is still the reality.

3 blind men and an elephant....

The three blind men and an elephant story is a limited argument in favour of shared intersubjectivity, rather than mind-independent reality, and you can't get from intersubjectivity to objective reality without faith, although I grant you, you do have plenty of that.