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There is absolutely no way of knowing this, though. Quantum physics tells us that the act of observation has a quantifiable effect on the thing observed, so your statement "existance isnt merely for the benifit of consciousness" (sic) is a bit simplistic – we simply don't know the extent to which 'reality' is a construct that emerges somewhere between phenomenological perception, or our sense-data if you like, and the materiality of the world around us.

This is carefully put: some interpretations of quantum mechanics do leave plenty of room for a deterministic, objective reality, but say that there are fundamental problems with us knowing what it is.