@ Nick G
all of your points are good ones, but right now its not that its too hard for newbies to find information, its that they can't be arsed. Spend time reading, reading, and reading some more. Too often people join up and want the information now, now, now! How many new members have tried to escape the nursery, just so they can post a wanted ad, or ask for a 55cm frame in red for small money.
Part of the joy of getting into bikes, or any other male obsession, is finding out information, about digging around, about searching for the stuff you need, and then hopefully picking it up for a rock bottom price.
New members seem to believe that just by adding their names to our ever growing membership, that entitles them immediately to the immense benefits of this forum without doing anything for it. Without coming to drinks, rides, donating, it just feels like they suck up the information and then bugger off. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with this, but when in doing so, you force away the members who have invested in it, that made the forum attractive to you in the first place then it becomes tedious.
New members need to stop being precious, there are many ways to introduce yourself both in person and online, and if they don't take those opportunities or willfully ignore directions given by our illustrious leader and other members then they deserve to get flamed. And you know what, the flaming now isn't half as hot as it used to be.
@ Nick G
all of your points are good ones, but right now its not that its too hard for newbies to find information, its that they can't be arsed. Spend time reading, reading, and reading some more. Too often people join up and want the information now, now, now! How many new members have tried to escape the nursery, just so they can post a wanted ad, or ask for a 55cm frame in red for small money.
Part of the joy of getting into bikes, or any other male obsession, is finding out information, about digging around, about searching for the stuff you need, and then hopefully picking it up for a rock bottom price.
New members seem to believe that just by adding their names to our ever growing membership, that entitles them immediately to the immense benefits of this forum without doing anything for it. Without coming to drinks, rides, donating, it just feels like they suck up the information and then bugger off. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with this, but when in doing so, you force away the members who have invested in it, that made the forum attractive to you in the first place then it becomes tedious.
New members need to stop being precious, there are many ways to introduce yourself both in person and online, and if they don't take those opportunities or willfully ignore directions given by our illustrious leader and other members then they deserve to get flamed. And you know what, the flaming now isn't half as hot as it used to be.