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Well the mockba I linked to is pretty much exactly the bike I'm looking for (and yes a quill stem would finish it nicely) so old style I guess, steel frame preferably, def for road rather than tricks. Budget is about 1500euro. I don't know how far that money would get me in terms of a shop14 type build either?
I don't have the skills or the time for a self build either and nothing in the otp thread tickles my fancy, I am fussy!