Tube strike, London

Are there any specialist skills required, not really, are there people who would bite their arm off for a job like theirs, Yes.

So you're not prepared to say what you do for a living so we can assess how vital your role in the community is and whether you are worth your pay then?....as you are doing for the tube drivers?

FUck it.
I am voting for PQR

So you're not prepared to say what you do for a living so we can assess how vital your role in the community is and whether you are worth your pay then?....as you are doing for the tube drivers?

I get people jobs numb nuts. And I am NOT arsed about my pay, I slack off, have fun and think I get paid what I am worth at the moment. I get paid commision so I get paid for the work I do. not sitting in a metal box.

For the last time, and I will say this slowly, I DON@T AGREE THEY ARE IN A POSITION TO STRIKE WHEN THEY GET PAID WELL FOR WHAT THEY DO AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOOKING FO WORK WHO CAN DO THE JOB WITH A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF TRAINING.

FUck it.
I am voting for PQR

Obama, Johnson watch out, Greasy has spoken and now i'm coming for you.

I would vote but i'm too apathetic

They are paid well above the average and it annoys people when they ask for more doing what is seen as a semi skilled job.

Average for who? and yes it is seen as a semi-skilled job by people like you , but I wouldn't be surprised if you were totally ignorant to what the job actually entails....

According to the article below, people are queuing up to be train drivers, and rightly so a worthwile job, serving the community...IMHO this is exactly how it should be and people whose jobs are vital should be more highly valued, not treated with the prejudice shown by some on this forum.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2002/jun/16/wageslaves.careers

A few lines are working so why don't you praise tube drivers working today.

...the fuckwit moron with a smell penis who saw me coming and walked BACKWARDS into me. And then claimed I hit him! I was trackstanding.

Somebody did this to me a while back, whilst i was rolling slowly (to allow him, a 'jaywalker' as dale would call him, to cross) whilst I was coming through a green light. He started walking backwards and calling me rude names. Wierdo.

...

i'd just like to report that this morning i pumped 7 tyres up to the recommended pressure (exactly). The lowest starting pressure was less than 10psi!... for me it was a very satistfying morning. i might just carry a track pump on me from now on.

i'll also be going to my work bike storage area and guerrilla pumping up at lunchtime...maybe I’ve a problem

I forgot to bring chain oil out with me! But I really needed it, I was just itching to oil the squeaky chains everywhere.

numb nuts

Someone doesn't agree with me, therefore they are numb nuts.....excellent work

That's not very specific, so you're employed by a governemnt agency or NGO to help long term unemployed back into the job market through a program of retraining and rehabilitation....is that right?....well done.....hope you are sufficiently remunerated for your efforts.

Or are you in recruitment / head hunting?

So you're not prepared to say what you do for a living so we can assess how vital your role in the community is and whether you are worth your pay then?....as you are doing for the tube drivers?

Worth to the community is a funny one. Tube drives seem like they have great worth to the community because the effect when they stop working is immediate and obvious. If all the people in labs across the country who are making vaccines stopped working no one would care, until people could not be vaccinated, then previously controlled diseases became endemic within society and many people start to die. The worth of these people is much greater IMO but no one would listen if they all went on strike. They would be harder to replace and restarting production would take alot longer. Still no one would listen to them as is't not as obvious or urgent. There are many other jobs like this too, but the connection and time lag between cause and effect can be even greater, and results of loosing them much more serious.

Winston - we are not being prejudiced about the tube drivers, I think when they work they seem to do a pretty good job.

I just don't see that they should strike asking for a raise in the current economic situation.

Just so I can sum up:
RMT Bunch of cunts
Bob Crowe Mother father and all the bastard offspring of Cuntishness, all while being Chief Cunt of Cuntsville, capital of Cuntland
Tube drivers who voted for strike, greedy cunts
Tube drivers who ignored the picket and got on with the jobs, legends

Me for wasting so much time on this ubercunt
Winston for making me repeat things and getting me riled up, mega uber cunt

Worth to the community is a funny one. Tube drives seem like they have great worth to the community because the effect when they stop working is immediate and obvious. If all the people in labs across the country who are making vaccines stopped working no one would care, until people could not be vaccinated, then previously controlled diseases became endemic within society and many people start to die. The worth of these people is much greater IMO but no one would listen if they all went on strike. They would be harder to replace and restarting production would take alot longer. Still no one would listen to them as is't not as obvious or urgent. There are many other jobs like this too, but the connection and time lag between cause and effect can be even greater, and results of loosing them much more serious.

This is a very good point....what I want to know is how do they get to work!

Someone doesn't agree with me, therefore they are numb nuts.....excellent work

That's not very specific, so you're employed by a governemnt agency or NGO to help long term unemployed back into the job market through a program of retraining and rehabilitation....is that right?....well done.....hope you are sufficiently remunerated for your efforts.

Or are you in recruitment / head hunting?

No, I'm the Messiah and I'm a very naughty boy

Can I get this thread back on track by moaning about a bespectacled twat going round Shepherds Bush Green this morning on a ludicrous MTB with a rear wheel that was about to fall off and no rear brake (he stopped by dragging his foot on the tarmac)???

Winston - we are not being prejudiced about the tube drivers, I think when they work they seem to do a pretty good job.

I just don't see that they should strike asking for a raise in the current economic situation.

Just so I can sum up:
RMT Bunch of cunts
Bob Crowe Mother father and all the bastard offspring of Cuntishness, all while being Chief Cunt of Cuntsville, capital of Cuntland
Tube drivers who voted for strike, greedy cunts
Tube drivers who ignored the picket and got on with the jobs, legends

Me for wasting so much time on this ubercunt
Winston for making me repeat things and getting me riled up, mega uber cunt

I submit, you're argument is thoughtful, well-reserched and ultimately based on indestuctible truth without need for recourse to personal insult or tantrums...

P.S. it's still not clear if your job is necessary or superfluous. numb nuts

Itubes will only get busier

Fare revenue and passengers numbers are down on last year and will likely continue to fall as people tighten their belts.

A few lines are working so why don't you praise tube drivers working today.

And the station staff who made the effort to go into work and run the stations.

There's also a fair number of office staff that hold valid operational licences working on stations today.

Can't see what all the fuss is about this strike when this community is founded on people riding their bikes most days.

I don't particularly favour striking. It always smacks of the actions of a petulant child, but whilst they can they should. If I were in a union I'd be fighting for my rights by striking too I imagine.

However, the strike shows Londoners persevering with mild grumbles here and there. And tbh I liked the crowds of additional cyclists on the roads. It made sure the additional motorists pay attention. In fact, I saw drivers this morning creating additional space for cyclists to pass through the stationery traffic.

Not something I see everyday.

So strike away, I say. And for longer. It gives people time to find other ways to travel so London can't be held to ransom every time LU Unions feel the need to down tools.

Unions are not necessarily 'troublemakers'. This is a Daily Wail lie.

Average for who? and yes it is seen as a semi-skilled job by people like you , but I wouldn't be surprised if you were totally ignorant to what the job actually entails....

i have friends who work at TFL and it isn't balistics, i have a much deeper hatred of overpaid powerpoint flicking buzz word screamers that dance around in suits. they add no value to live. i could name hundreds of careers that are dead to society but this is about a group of people under a union demanding more money at a time when everybody is under pressure in a shared ecconimical down turn. the way this group go about negotiating is walking out and causing havoc... twats simple as!

According to the article below, people are queuing up to be train drivers, and rightly so a worthwile job, serving the community...IMHO this is exactly how it should be and people whose jobs are vital should be more highly valued, not treated with the prejudice shown by some on this forum.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2002/jun/16/wageslaves.careers

Good, then let them take the job of those that strike.

Thats so idealistic it hurts Winston! of course we would all want that but a man picking random numbers of a PC monitor losing milllions at a bank gets paid millions and a social worker changing lives scrapes by.. do you now think those that choose the job had their earnings in mind?
They do a job for the satisfaction it gives them, not for the piles of money they have to spend on the little time they have to them selves.

Winston - we are not being prejudiced about the tube drivers, I think when they work they seem to do a pretty good job.

I just don't see that they should strike asking for a raise in the current economic situation.

Just so I can sum up:
RMT Bunch of cunts
Bob Crowe Mother father and all the bastard offspring of Cuntishness, all while being Chief Cunt of Cuntsville, capital of Cuntland
Tube drivers who voted for strike, greedy cunts
Tube drivers who ignored the picket and got on with the jobs, legends

Me for wasting so much time on this ubercunt
Winston for making me repeat things and getting me riled up, mega uber cunt

1000 jobs are on the line, the issue of pay is secondary. Apparently there are 10,000 people working for TFL. that's 10%. Massive cutbacks mean longer working hours for those who are left. Lets not forget that these people were working at these times just this week:
5.30am yesterday morning when you were tucked up in bed
12.30pm on Satuday night when you were out getting wankered
3pm on Sunday afternoon when you were probably at the pub or having a BBQ. If I worked unsociable hours doing a rubbish job I'd want good pay too.

no comment

I submit, you're argument is thoughtful, well-reserched and ultimately based on indestuctible truth without need for recourse to personal insult or tantrums...

P.S. it's still not clear if your job is necessary or superfluous. numb nuts

Sigh .....My job is entirely superfluous in this case, unless you end up being one of the people I got a better job than the one they were in previousley and they might disagree.

What i do isn't the issue, the issue is with unions striking in fucking up millions of people in the process

BUt the point of before wasn't about what i do, I don't drive a tube and if i did I wouldn't be striking. Something about the bigger picture here....economic collapse, small businesses failing. Is this strike going to help anyone.......erm....no.

1000 jobs are on the line, the issue of pay is secondary. Apparently there are 10,000 people working for TFL. that's 10%. Massive cutbacks mean longer working hours for those who are left. Lets not forget that these people were working at these times just this week:
5.30am yesterday morning when you were tucked up in bed
12.30pm on Satuday night when you were out getting wankered
3pm on Sunday afternoon when you were probably at the pub or having a BBQ. If I worked unsociable hours doing a rubbish job I'd want good pay too.

Go check out their available jobs on the tfl website and come back to point out which ones really are of use

anything that keeps the underground running would be of use.

Today's proven my superfluous, no value to society job is exactly that - this place is more than half empty. Anyone beat that?

And yet another thing, these figures the CBI/whoever come out with of the "cost to London" of strikes and similar - what are they counting? I seriously don't get it - what money isn't being spent today or what things aren't being made today that won't just get spent / made on Friday? Or am I just being really dumb?