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• #27
P.S. I've had two chains snap on me whilst I haz brakless one was heavily worn
(and should have been replaced much sooner, lesson learnt!) and one was just a shit chain which I later found out you should never run on fixed, my bad eh!
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• #28
foot jam doesn't taste too good
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• #29
Haha, James, you crazy! :P
Anyway, I'm not that dumb that I'm gonna fit a brake on this frame, a front brake will only increase the pressure on that front part.
yeah, braking with the front tire might have been a bad idea but it was downhill and I've never ridden brakeless and fixed-less before so I got caught slightly off guard.Anyway, I'm getting a Gitane steel frame in a week or so (hopefully), so i'll be riding this one carefully until then and hope it won't snap on me. I rode it to the shop today and at the velodrome yesterday, so the steering isn't a problem as long as I'm aware of the toe overlap.
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• #30
I am Crazy mate, but i'm not Crazy enough to ride a semi-broken frame!
For the love of God, please do not ride this frame, if it breaks you are going to have a really nasty crash, and probably lose half your face to the tarmac, it is just not worth the risk!
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• #31
I am Crazy mate, but i'm not Crazy enough to ride a semi-broken frame!
For the love of God, please do not ride this frame, if it breaks you are going to have a really nasty crash, and probably lose half your face to the tarmac, it is just not worth the risk!
Also sticking a brake on would be a sensible idea, at least until you can control the bike properly.The guy at the shop I was at today to sort out my rear hub told me that it most probably wasn't too dangerous to ride, at least for a short period of time..but I'm still sceptical, I might just take your advice and bin it at once..
I already have a brake at home, so as soon as I get the new frame I'll mount it. But now that I know how to skid properly it's not a big problem to ride brakeless (yeah, until this happens that is)..
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• #32
I'd bin it, meself. Not only are the tubes fucked and definitely on a fast route to failing but you have absolutely no idea whether the joints within the lugs are intact. For the sake of say a hundred quid for a nice road frame to convert you'd be nuts to risk stopping with your face. Could be photographic distortion, but the forks look bent too and again you've no way of knowing if the steerer tube joint is OK.
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• #33
The guy at the shop I was at today to sort out my rear hub told me that it most probably wasn't too dangerous to ride, at least for a short period of time..but I'm still sceptical, I might just take your advice and bin it at once..
I already have a brake at home, so as soon as I get the new frame I'll mount it. But now that I know how to skid properly it's not a big problem to ride brakeless (yeah, until this happens that is)..
I was lucky enough to not get ANY marks on myself though, but I think it's once in a lifetime kind of luck..=PThe problem is that its impossible to tell just how long it could be before it breaks, it might last weeks, or it might leave you with half your face distributed across the tarmac tomorrow, totally not worth the risk, ever!
With all due respect if you knew how to skid properly and control your bike effectively you wouldn't have gone head on into whatever it was you hit, I rode brakeless on my bmx for 7-8 years and only ever had one crash on the roads which was due to my own stupidity not lack of brakes, stick a brake on until you are so confident brakeless that you don't even contemplate touching your brake in any situation, then maybe its time to think about doing the whole brakless shizzle if you want to. -
• #34
I locked my brand new bike up outside Dalston Kingsland Station for five minutes while I popped inside to take a dump in the photo booth... when I came out it looked like this!
Is it still cool to ride? Jus I got a care in the community meeting tonight.
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• #35
With all due respect if you knew how to skid properly and control your bike effectively you wouldn't have gone head on into whatever it was you hit
I didn't hit anything, read my first post. The chain slipped off, and because of my own stupidity/inexperience I tried braking with my foot on the front wheel..it worked to slow me down quite a lot, until the wheel locked and I flew off..
Nothing was hit, just the fact that it stopped suddenly put so much pressure on the frame it bent..
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• #36
I locked my brand new bike up outside Dalston Kingsland Station for five minutes while I popped inside to take a dump in the photo booth... when I came out it looked like this!
Is it still cool to ride? Jus I got a care in the community meeting tonight.
It was me, I got pissed off about my frame so I fucked up the first bike I saw.. but I reckon it's cool to ride though, you should give it a try later on!
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• #37
Yeah I don't know why I thought that when I posted the second time round lol? Anyhow the rest of my points still stand, you should listen to my advice.......even if I am crazy.
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• #38
I didn't hit anything, read my first post. The chain slipped off, and because of my own stupidity/inexperience I tried braking with my foot on the front wheel..it worked to slow me down quite a lot, until the wheel locked and I flew off..
Nothing was hit, just the fact that it stopped suddenly put so much pressure on the frame it bent..
Why did your chain slip off ? Too slack ? Worn sprocket ?
You really could do with finding out why......
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• #39
Why did your chain slip off ? Too slack ? Worn sprocket ?
You really could do with finding out why......
I think it was too slack..I noticed it at the velodrome but didn't have the tools with me to loosen the wheel and tighten it.
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• #40
Yeah I don't know why I thought that when I posted the second time round lol? Anyhow the rest of my points still stand, you should listen to my advice.......even if I am crazy.
I appreciate that, and I'll take your advice. I can't ride until Tuesday anyhow, my rear wheel is at the workshop, but I'll strip this frame over the weekend and bin it..=) Thanks, mate!
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• #41
I'm always minded to post this when I see bikes with damaged top and down tubes;
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• #42
I locked my brand new bike up outside Dalston Kingsland Station for five minutes while I popped inside to take a dump in the photo booth... when I came out it looked like this!
Is it still cool to ride? Jus I got a care in the community meeting tonight.
Haha its so true. Even if they cant steal the bike they will just make sure u cant have it. Like a jealousy thing
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• #43
Vector Sigma - personally I wouldn't ride that frame but the choice is yours…
however, if you're riding that round a velodrome with other track riders then I strongly suggest you don't.
If you took me down on the track because your frame failed and you had knowingly been riding a bike that was compromised then after you'd picked the splinters out of your arse cheeks you'd have to contend with a rather large bald man chasing you around the drome looking to connect his track pump with your bonce :^]
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• #44
Joe Blow + clenched sphincter = "this is track racing?!?!"
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• #45
dunno if anyone has mentioned this
If you were now to fit a front brake, every time you use it, you will be potentially worsening the problem, and it will facilitate the failure of the frame much sooner.
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• #46
That frame is a write off. I cant believe youd be even considering riding it. If you do natural selection may well take over.... take it to a shop and they can explain what could happen. Bad luck all the same.
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• #47
Forgot to start the poll:
1: yes
2: no
3: get a fucking front brakeThis is what happened to my 2 weeks old (for me at least) Motobecane frame (888 vitus tubing) after the chain slipped and I tried to brake with my foot on the front wheel. The foot followed the tyre and got stuck near the frame, locking the wheel up and sending me flying..
Do you think this is way too dangerous to ride on the street?
Both tubes are bent, as you see, but the lower one is the worst..are you talking shit? You're serious aren't you? You stuck your foot in the front wheel?
Anyway look at that frame. It's cooked, skully.
Frame is fucked, you would be so stupid to try and ride that on the road now, I can't believe you are even asking the question. Not only will the head tube angle be a lot steeper making steering fucked and toe overlap a massive issue it WILL fail at some stage, maybe no straight away but it at soon and possibly in a very nasty way. Putting a front brake on that frame will actually do more harm as using the front wheel to stop (as you found out) puts large rotational forces through the head tube, doesn't matter if your using your foot or a brake the loading is similar. Bin the frame, get something else and put some brakes on before you go riding.