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@kingcutter
That is very helpfull Ed to be honest I am 6'2 and I rang Evens about a 61cm they had in stock but they said it would be to big,I stuck a deposit on it anyway to try it out,I am tall top half with long arms that is why i always have crazy long stems on my builds,the 59 is only 57 TT the 61 is 58.5.