What is the best lock?

The Series 3 is just barely carryable, if a bit of a pain. I dread to think what the Series IV must weigh.

thought in all of the video, all the chain are on the floor and extremely loose, hence why it was easier to cut them.

locking method FTW.

Why is everyone so obsessed with locks anyway? All bikes can be covered by home insurance, can't they?

What's the point of locking your car? it's covered by insurance isn't it?

Oh, no point in locking your house too, after all it is also covered by insurance.

i like Paul-Michel

What's the point of locking your car? it's covered by insurance isn't it?

Oh, no point in locking your house too, after all it is also covered by insurance.

All I am saying is that my bike cost me 284, admittedly that was half price, and I do worry about leaving it anywhere, and I would like the Abus cable thingy, but for 90 quid.... thats half the cost of the darn bike.

Rather than spend loads on locks, I would of course prefer for it not to get stolen, but I don't want to go OTT.

I think I ought to examine the small print of my insurance...

Think about it, would you like to go through the whole hassle of getting a new bike from the insurance company? it took me a full 2 months to get mine despite it being a textbook theft (they cut the lock, took it with them and the bike), they tried to weasel out by pointing out that I locked it outside my house, and you should check the small prints, a couple years ago I notice that my old insurance is invalid if I lock my bike outside my house.

Plus you don't need to spend £90, especially when a decent U-lock can be enough for a lots less.

All I am saying is that my bike cost me 284, admittedly that was half price, and I do worry about leaving it anywhere, and I would like the Abus cable thingy, but for 90 quid.... thats half the cost of the darn bike.

Arithmetic fail.

For those concerned about the weight I reckon the small U lock at the end of the Fahgettaboudit chain make quite a nifty little solution. Just measured it on my kitchen scales and its 803 grammes.
They don't seem to sell these loose so it's only available to those bothered to buy the whole chain. Bikesyoulike.co.uk sell this thing though, but doesn't give size and I 'm not sure of the security level of that vs. the yellow ones.

it look like it's harder than the Evolution Mini (the small orange version that is), which should be fairly enough.

I have no idea if the orange one is slighty smaller than the yellow, one, it's a great idea, especially if you own a track bike with a really tight clearance on the front wheel, it can be use to lock the bottom tube to the wheel easily.

I already have the Evo mini, by the way.

I'm just annoyed that I keep using public transport if I go for a meal or something with my girlfriend, when really I should be riding there, its just that I am too afraid to leave it.

Evo Mini is usually enough, in the Stolen bikes topic, there is lots of tips and advice on how to/where/how long you should lock your bike.

Evo Mini is usually enough, in the Stolen bikes topic, there is lots of tips and advice on how to/where/how long you should lock your bike.

I've not seen that, I'll take a look. First I need to get a pit lock on my front wheel - at the moment its quick release!

Cast resurrect.

I'm in a bit of a conundrum with locks. I'm considering going for the mini through the rear triangle route, but the fah just doesn't seem to have enough space. Has anyone got dimensions for the the actual inner clearance? I might just get the NY3000 and try and fill it with some more of the bike.

I don't know if this has been posted yet but there's a few rules on how to lock on the Kryptonite website which i've copied here

Bicycles

Always lock your bike, especially at home. This means in your garage, in your apartment building and your college residence hall. If you have a sense of security and become a little lax, that's when a thief will take advantage.
Lock to a fixed, immovable object like a parking meter or permanent bike rack. Be careful not to lock to items that can be easily cut, broken or removed like a chain link fence (yes, thieves are that creative). Be careful that your bike can't be lifted over the top of the object you've locked it to, like a sign.
Lock in a well-lit area with a lot of foot traffic.
Lock in a location where there are other bikes. The chances are pretty good that there will be a bike with less security, or no security, right near yours. Thieves will go for the easiest target every time.
When using a U-lock, position your bike frame and wheels so that you fill or take up as much of the open space within the U-portion of the lock as possible. The tighter the lock up the harder it is for a thief to use tools to attack and twist your lock.
Always position your U-lock with the keyway facing down towards the ground, but not close to the ground. Locks on the ground are more easily leveraged for attack.
Always secure your components and accessories with a secondary cable lock. This includes quick-release components.

For the greatest theft protection use two locks such as a U-lock and a locking cable. The longer a thief will have to work, the less likely your bike will be stolen.
Don't lock your bike to itself by simply locking the front wheel to the frame. A bike 'locked' like this can easily be lifted and carried away.
A thief may notice a pattern and target your bike if you lock in the same location all the time. Mix up the locations a little bit, especially if you are a commuter.
Check with area law enforcement agencies and read all signs in the area before locking your bike. Don't lock to anything illegal.
Always check your lock before leaving your bike to be sure you have secured it properly.

Cast resurrect.

I'm in a bit of a conundrum with locks. I'm considering going for the mini through the rear triangle route, but the fah just doesn't seem to have enough space. Has anyone got dimensions for the the actual inner clearance? I might just get the NY3000 and try and fill it with some more of the bike.

picture speak thousand of word;

the size is usually enough, it just force you to be more creative when locking your bike that all.

Cheers ed
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Just bought the fah from parker for £55.25 with free postage.

it's tough being a kid nowadays...

it's tough being a kid nowadays...

I know that bike, it don't belong to no kid, it belong to that pigeon in the gutter.

That's how he be rollin'

Lovely bit of incidental light falling on the front of the bike by the way.

i found the guy who owns it ! :D
skid to 1min20sec to see him blinging it LAArGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mpJumHU-w

[FONT=Trebuchet MS]I've read this whole post and I don’t think anyone has mentioned cables (apologies if someone has). I have a Kryptonite armoured cable which I use with a sturdy Magnum d-lock. Anyone have any input at how easy/hard these are at breaking? [/FONT]
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[FONT=Trebuchet MS]Even if they aren't that strong I think it helps deter those thieving bastards.[/FONT]

Sorry about that...I shall try again.

I've read this whole thread and I don't think anyone has mentioned cables (apologies if someone has). I have a Kryptonite armoured cable which I use with a sturdy Magnum d lock.

Anyone have any input as to how easy/hard these are at breaking?

Even if they aren't that strong I think it helps deter those thieving bastards.

yeah better than nowt and may make the thief move onto the next bike but with a pair of bolt cutters I'd be surprised if it took more than 20 seconds to get through that.

I bolt cutted through a cheap U-Lock (looked the part but was cheap) and it only took one quick go and I didn't even have to put in much effort (it was for someone who'd lost the key, I wasn't pinching a bike).

Cables are utter crap. All of them. About as secure as string.

I use an abus loopy thing to protect my seat but the bike is always locked up with a Kryptonite new york as well.

Thanks for the advice really useful.