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@Frank_Glass
true...good to have both!
actually, wait, I think I am generalising from the feel of my bike to the feel of other lo pro bikes...mine has this sort of webbing in between the tubes and thus is super rigid...I have another bike with horizontal top tube, and it is not as stiff and direct as the lo pro...so I guess my thoughts are more about the feel of my bike than being in favour of the feel of lo pros generally...