• I find mine so comfortable. It's all too easy to assume that they're really low at the front and you're really hunched over....i made that assumption about teddy's until i rode it and realised the position felt the same as my brooklyn.
    If you measure the bar height on most of the riser bar equipped lo-pros people are riding these days you'll see that they're no lower than most other bikes.
    Both my 700 with drops and 650 with risers are only about 1" lower than my brooklyn....but they're both about an inch longer in cockpit length....this bends my back from the hips instead of further up my spine which really helps me.
    If people are going over the bars then they're probably just shit riders TBH.

    Like i say....just because the position looks aggressive it doesn't mean it is....in most cases the front is hardly any lower, it's just that the seat tube/top tube junction is higher.
    I've been riding mine for 1.5hr rides lately and coming back with no discomfort.

    Try one that is set up well and has the right length for you before you make too many assumptions.

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