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• #52
I have hearing aids, I was born profoundly deaf, but I wear hearing aids and can hear as well as you can, however it doesn't mean I can understand sound as well as you do.
Taking your analogy of the man on the T.V speaking French, is the problem with not being able to understand because you could not hear/did not a have a hearing aid when young/baby so did not learn to understand the spoken word? i.e As with your hearing aid (assuming now background noise to interfere, I understand this can be an issue with some hearing aids) if you can hear a word given number of times and see it written down can you come to remember and understand the word? Is the fact that you learnt to communicate without hearing means that it's more difficult for you to do this and that is why you say you can hear what people say but don't understand. If this is the case have you found that you can understand the odd word and that your knowledge improves over time?
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• #53
put it this way - you learn to hear before you were born, in your mother's belly.
I first learn to hear when I was 2 years old after the NHS give me the hearing aids (very expensive), to put it in perceptive, you know when Marty McFly was in the DeLoren being pushed by a steam locomotive and went past the point of no return in Back To The Future III? I have already past that before I was born.
I can easily hear a person speak, but couldn't understand what he's saying, almost like listening to someone mumbling, my learning curve due to not being able to hear before I was born is a lots steeper, as my brain hasn't fully developed to listening and recognising sound properly, put it this way - i can't tell the difference between a bird's tweet and the squeal of a double decker bus' brake.
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• #54
Also there's a reason why my english is quite sporadic (that might be putting it mildly in some case!), is because despite learning to speak and listen, I learn sign language when I first went to boarding school because of the other deaf pupils who couldn't understand me as well as I to them, sign language is exactly like text messaging;
in speaking; "hi, how are you? do you have a good day?"
in sign language; "hi, how you? you have good day?" (shorten it mean it would take the same time to complete the sentence in sign language as well as speaking).
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• #55
Cool. I was along the right lines with my learnt to hear too late thing. For reference your analogy of " i can't tell the difference between a bird's tweet and the squeal of a double decker bus' brake." makes more sense than the speaking French / another language from a hearing persons point of view.
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• #56
I figure it's a better way to describe it, oh and I have no balance whatsoever (you need your hearing to keep your balance, put in some ear plug, cover your eyes and try and walk), on top of not being able to hear oncoming car, truck, whatsoever in London; riding a fixed wheel bicycles should've been a death trap for me!
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• #57
Yes, that is indeed what I meant.
However.....Nope. I stand by my original statement. "Bentley" is meant as an analogy representing a luxury version of mobile phones.
She's right you know, tynan. It's 'common knowledge' that a Bentley is a car, and an expensive/etc one, so to say something is the Bentley of cars is nonsensical, unless you're saying 'the Bentley is the Bentley of cars'.
But you could describe the Bentley as the iPhone of cars.
I was temporarily thrown by your confident declaration, but then, you are the lfgss of tynans.
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• #58
haha, fuck you
my mummy pays my phone bill but refuses to buy me any bike components...
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• #59
Whooo! - Get her...
;-)you can't my iphone is very mobile, you'll never find me.
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• #60
Triangulation for the nation.. Comin' ta get get get yaaaaaaaaaaa
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• #61
My phone has a game on it called Rapid Roll. It's ok but my old phone had a much better game on it but I have forgotten what it was called but I liked playing it, it was fun but then I lost my old phone and it was a present from my brother and I felt really bad and had to make up a story about how it was stolen even though it wasn't really stolen I actually lost it and I really miss that game which I can't remember the name of, it was a bit like Tetrus, and I'd got really good at it too, when it started up it had a really nice jingle which I liked and my new phone game has a jingle too but it's not as good as the old jingle on the old phone game, I wish I had the same game on my new phone, it's a Nokia too like the old one but they changed the game, I don't know why, the old game was much better with a better jingle too, I wish I could remember the name of it, oh yes, I've just remembered it, it was called Animal Park which is a funny name because there weren't any animals in it, I don't think so anyway, yes Animal park was a really good game on my old phone which I lost. I hope my brother doesn't read this but if he does I'm really sorry Stephen that I lost myoldphone which you gave me for Xmas and that I told you it had been stolen.
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• #62
And breath will.
Sure it wasn't Arcade Park?
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• #63
no it was Animal park the game on my old phone which I lost and pretended had been stolen because my brother had given me my old phone for xmas and it was the first mobile phone I'd ever had and it was a really nice present, though I'd asked for it so it wasn't really a surprise but it was a really nice present anyway, and I lost it and I felt bad about that like I had done a naughty thing and I didn't want my brother to be upset so I made up a story, because I am good at making up stories but I shouldn't have made up this story about my old phone which I lost, I should have told the truth but I felt bad so I made up a story.
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• #64
i have a BlackBerry Bold, cos they gave me one. Apple haven't given me an iPhone, so i don't have one. Simple, really.
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• #65
Yes, that is indeed what I meant.
However.....Nope. I stand by my original statement. "Bentley" is meant as an analogy representing a luxury version of mobile phones.
Do you know what, you are right, I was just being pedant.
:)
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• #66
I figure it's a better way to describe it, oh and I have no balance whatsoever (you need your hearing to keep your balance, put in some ear plug, cover your eyes and try and walk), on top of not being able to hear oncoming car, truck, whatsoever in London; riding a fixed wheel bicycles should've been a death trap for me!
Ed, you are designed for cycling !! :O :P
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• #67
She's right you know, tynan. It's 'common knowledge' that a Bentley is a car, and an expensive/etc one, so to say something is the Bentley of cars is nonsensical, unless you're saying 'the Bentley is the Bentley of cars'.
But you could describe the Bentley as the iPhone of cars.
I was temporarily thrown by your confident declaration, but then, you are the lfgss of tynans.
Ha! :) already been rumbled.
I would have got away with it if it wasn't for your vindictive semantic exactitude. :(
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• #68
Cool. I was along the right lines with my learnt to hear too late thing. For reference your analogy of " i can't tell the difference between a bird's tweet and the squeal of a double decker bus' brake." makes more sense than the speaking French / another language from a hearing persons point of view.
Tommy, this might make it clearer (Ed can tell me if I am off course here).
After the Second World War - Japan was keen to trade with the US (they came out of WWII as the only wealthy country around) - this required lots of US teachers - foreign language learning on a scale never seen before - and it threw up one interesting thing.
The Japanese students, famously, could not pronounce the letter 'R' - so there was a lot of 'weading' 'witting' and 'awithmetic' going on in the lessons, as their language did not have a pronounced 'R' like English.
But it was not a lack of practice that stopped them from being able to pronounce the word, their brain simply did not 'hear' the sound 'R' (as we know it) as it had never grown the neural connections in the auditory cortex that were needed to register it.
So the teachers developed a system of teaching the mouth shape needed to pronounce 'R' - but strangely even when the very best students were given a a stream of recordings of their own voice on tape - like the following . . .
Wight - Wight - Wight - Wight - Right - Wight - Wight
. . . and asked to pick out the correct one as recognition trainning - it was found to be a complete waste of time as they could never pick out the word 'Right', they could hear the words perfectly clearly but their brains simply could not hear the difference between 'Wight' and 'Right'.
So I imagine Ed's brain is like that with all words.
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• #69
Ha! :) already been rumbled.
I would have got away with it if it wasn't for your vindictive semantic exactitude. :(
... pesky kids, eh?
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• #70
Cause it's true:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-q-hSy1bM
And
I have hearing aids, I was born profoundly deaf, but I wear hearing aids and can hear as well as you can, however it doesn't mean I can understand sound as well as you do.
if someone is talking on television, he might as well speak French as I has no idea what he's saying, but I can hear him.
Well it less to do with feature more to do with the old iPod shitting itself everyday, and even a new battery only keep it alive for 2 hours, so that was the reason really.
when I got the newer one, it so much easier and conivence to have the lyric on show rather than getting them off the internet and trying to put them in the 'note' section of the iPod.
you could run linux, but then, I don't know how and I don't want to go through the hassle (even iof it isn't that much of an hassle).