• I have entered this debate with little in the way of alternatives which probably belittles my oppinion.

    I don't think that detracts from your opinion in any way.

    Maybe collecting money every once in a while from drinks/rides would be a good idea. People would be a lot more willing to hand over some cash whilst under the influence.

    The one issue with this approach is that it remains the same smallish groups of people who give on a regular basis. Not everyone can attend the drinks sessions or all the rides for various reasons.

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