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thanks for your help folks, i've just shown tom all your helpful information and he's grateful, he loved the bomb difusal (?) joke response he got, but he's just coming to terms with the fact that the langster might not be the most popular bike on this forum (he's an ex-soldier, not long back from afghanistan and iraq and stuff, thinks he's got a top racing bike, he's going to sleep right now, in the spare room, he's hard as nails, so i've had to pretend to him he's got a great bike, but thanks a lot, he'll probably take the bike apart like it's a tank or a gun tomorrow. i just thank my stars he didn't get a london langster).