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so yeah, got em for condor, they told me onthe phoen £40, when i got there they were priced £60, they gave them to me for £50 and are £90 in their catalogue...??? then saw donuts last night and he's got some that look exactly the same but cost £25 on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toe-straps-Exustar-Double-Sprinter-Type_W0QQitemZ380120597652QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item380120597652&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50