i have a swallow. The shape and fit of it is much the same as a B17, which is what i had before. They're good saddles and i for one enjoy the design of them. The simplicity of it appeals to me, as do the materials. However, they are pretty archaic by modern standards and in no way light. even the titanium versions are as heavy if not heavier than nearly all basic modern saddles. On the upside they are supposed to last for years. Decades even if looked after well.
Use the search function up above ^, there's already a wealth of information on the forum regarding both of those you have mentioned, as well as Brooks saddles in general.
i have a swallow. The shape and fit of it is much the same as a B17, which is what i had before. They're good saddles and i for one enjoy the design of them. The simplicity of it appeals to me, as do the materials. However, they are pretty archaic by modern standards and in no way light. even the titanium versions are as heavy if not heavier than nearly all basic modern saddles. On the upside they are supposed to last for years. Decades even if looked after well.
Use the search function up above ^, there's already a wealth of information on the forum regarding both of those you have mentioned, as well as Brooks saddles in general.