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@hippy
Just messing. I don't like people raving about old steel like it has some kind of mystic properties the same way I don't like people telling me aluminium rides too harsh to use for long distance or carbon is whippy or titanium is the only gooch-friendly option or all the other silly preconceptions everyone has..
Anyway, forget this toss.. what I wanted to mention was that if you wanted steel is real deal.. I saw this earlier today.. Baum in '05 were doing a 953 frame that weighed 1000g..
"At the Bicycling Australia show, Baum had on display what the company's Jo Banks believes is one of just three 953 frames in the world at the moment (the other two tubesets went to Boston, USA builder Independent Fabrications). The weight: 1000g."
"Baum's Jo Banks told Cyclingnews that this prototype frame was built to the exact same dimensions as "a well-known titanium company's 800g frame." In other words, this is a weight for a smallish 'medium' sloping frame."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/australia05/?id=results/australia051
http://www.baumcycles.com/road-bikes.html