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@J4mmd
I thought I might show something thats been going on in my shed.
its a very old 1930/40's frame (Malvern Star) so its pretty long, even with 27"ers it looks a very relaxed geometry.
I'm currently trying to find some fairly relaxed bars that still have a nice shape. I just offered these ones up to see how far the saddle to stem distance felt.
The frame is in a half stripped/rubbed state at the moment, possibly for an old style paint job, or just rubbed down nicely and sealed. Who knows, I've been taking my time.
I particularly like its white walls, heaven knows where to find any more though.
James