• That post from tommasini is scary, they don't really sound like they know what they are doing.

    Fork rake and headtube angle are inextricably linked.

    When I was at the workshop of a certain experienced frame builder recently, 'Right, the fork rake on those is 28mm, so you will have to have a 75 degree headtube'

    35mm sounds a bit slack to me. Will make for an awful weird ride with a steep headtube. My dolan has 30mm fork rake on a 74 degree headtube and the bianchi pista is 28mm.

    My new frame, and I trust the experience of the builder, is 57cm c to c in both directions, 75 seat, 75 head, with 28mm fork, rear clearance will be 0mm on 22mm tubs to keep the rear stays short, and it is either 11.25 or 11.5 inch BB hight (I can't remember). That felt really nice for me on the jig and should handle well, I'm using a 12 stem.

    this is where i started to get overwhelmed (see my above post). From the BB shell forward, there are a lot of variables which are all dependent on one-another for bike that will actually ride. I mean you can reallly fuck up the bike if the trail isn't dialed.

    If i were building the bike in this thread, i would gank the geometry of the front (i.e. the headtube angle and fokr length/rake) of a Keirin or some other tight track bike and i wouldn't touch it. Leave it alone.

    Then i would shorten the back as much as possible and put some super long dropouts on it for adjustment. I would give a 50-60mm drop to the BB shell.

    and then i would muck about with the seat tube angle/length depending on if i want a ride the places me over the front wheel Vs a ride the moves my ass backwards. I'd prolly go 1 degree slacker than whatever the headtube is.   
    

    I like a shorter bike, so i'd keep the TT length on the shorter end of "normal"

    I'd plug that into that link i posted earlier, fill in the other dimensions logically (mabye a slight sylish dip to the toptube?), and then i'd print out the dimensions.

    yea. not sure why i typed all of that out, but i enjoyed it.

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