straw man argument. Who made the IPCC the final and only opinion on climate change? Look at the politics behind the IPCC - it was set up by the UN.
evidence please, not conjecture.
see both comments above.
Evidence please.
you are kidding with this right?
again. citation required. I frankly don't believe this statement.
because people can't manage two problems at once? it's possible that as people take on board the enormity of GW as an environmental issue, they'll acknowledge other environmental issues too? My experience of social behaviour leads me to believe that people need a catastrophe to adjust their thinking (small issues get ignored), but once people do change their mindset they can embrace new similar ideas easliy.
Deeply interested in all this, supposed to be informed being employed by a sustainable transport charity.
Have picked up on a fantastic book by Dan Gardner 'Risk, the Science and Politics of Fear' which makes a really good attempt at explaining how we come to believe what we believe--heartily recommend it as essential reading for following this thread.
specifically r.e- the IPCC info he says this:-
"Unfortunately, the language of science is the opposite of the simple, definitive statements the media want. In science, all knowledge is tentative, every fact open to challenge. Science never delivers absolute certainty.Instead facts are said to be known with degrees of confidence. is the earth getting warmer and is human activity the cause? In 1995, the IPCC answered that question with this statement:
'The balance of evidence sugggestsa discernable human influence on global climate.'
In 2001, the IPCC said, 'There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities' And in 2007, with further research pointing to the same conclusion, the IPCC reported that 'Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid 20th century is very likely due to the observed increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.' The phrase 'very likely' is about as strong as sciencegets. In the 2007 IPCC report it was defined as meaning a 95 per cent chance that it is so. Thats a common scientific convention: something is taken as established fact if there is 95 per cent confidencethat it is correct."
We live in a mediated world, but just being selective about what sources of information you access definately helps.
Personally it amazes me that apparently intelligent people will pay regularly and handsomely for insurance policies that protect them against 'what ifs', and at the same time carry on blithely with the same lifestyles when presented with the evidence of climate change.
Deeply interested in all this, supposed to be informed being employed by a sustainable transport charity.
Have picked up on a fantastic book by Dan Gardner 'Risk, the Science and Politics of Fear' which makes a really good attempt at explaining how we come to believe what we believe--heartily recommend it as essential reading for following this thread.
specifically r.e- the IPCC info he says this:-
"Unfortunately, the language of science is the opposite of the simple, definitive statements the media want. In science, all knowledge is tentative, every fact open to challenge. Science never delivers absolute certainty.Instead facts are said to be known with degrees of confidence. is the earth getting warmer and is human activity the cause? In 1995, the IPCC answered that question with this statement:
'The balance of evidence sugggestsa discernable human influence on global climate.'
In 2001, the IPCC said, 'There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities' And in 2007, with further research pointing to the same conclusion, the IPCC reported that 'Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid 20th century is very likely due to the observed increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.' The phrase 'very likely' is about as strong as sciencegets. In the 2007 IPCC report it was defined as meaning a 95 per cent chance that it is so. Thats a common scientific convention: something is taken as established fact if there is 95 per cent confidencethat it is correct."
We live in a mediated world, but just being selective about what sources of information you access definately helps.
Personally it amazes me that apparently intelligent people will pay regularly and handsomely for insurance policies that protect them against 'what ifs', and at the same time carry on blithely with the same lifestyles when presented with the evidence of climate change.