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http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article6035809.ece
The brilliance of AA Gill - I think he caught the moment ...snigger
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Of all the cameras and such present it is surprising to have seen any footage of this yet. Be interesting to hear an official response to such footage.
police attack non violent climate camp
activist respond by not fighting back and chanting "this is not a riot" and "shame on you"
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That bloke who died . . .
What is now known: bloke coming back from work (newspaper seller from the area), had a couple of drinks with friends, strolling home, minding his own business, some cunt of a police officer first stikes his legs from behind with a baton, then violently throws him to the ground - again from behind.
The bloke takes a bad fall, hands half in pockets, stunned on the ground for a while, he gets up and makes his way from his armed attacker and dies from a heart attack three minutes later.
Like I have said, the police can be violent pricks when they get the chance, the G20 was a typical display of inane policing that exacerbated frustrations and added to the hostilities, as well as blatantly denying the democratic right to protest.
Fucking bunch of dim minded little pricks, I wouldn't be surprised to know that some of them left their stations that morning with the biggest erections they have had this year, excited at the chance to put club to head with some of these filthy demonstrators.
Video: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/ian-tomlinson-g20-death-video
The police seem to have themselves confused as to what their role is when it comes to public demonstrations, there role is facilitate the demonstration, allow it to proceed, protect the public as a whole, their role is not to impede demonstration, 'kettle' or otherwise detain people who have committed no crime, nor is their role to instigate violence or attack the protesters in any way.
Cunts.
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this saturday theres a march for that guy and to be honest i hope it turns into a proper riot considering this man was pretty much killed by the police and in most other countrys there would be national outrage and riots.
BREAKING NEWS....................................................
................................A man died on Wednesday at #G20 Meltdown protest. He had head wounds. Answers to questions surrounding his death are demanded.
Assemble this Easter Saturday 11.30am
BETHNAL GREEN POLICE STATION
We demand answers.
Solemn procession to BANK OF ENGLAND
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To be honest, at every protest you hear cries of "police started the violence" etc, and usually it's not justified. So I was thinking pretty much the same thing in this case. Until I saw the video of them rushing the climate camp, and then last night I saw the video on the Guardian site of them pushing the man who died to the ground.
It's clear that one officer effectively murdered Mr. Tomlinson in an unprovoked attack, just as it's clear that the police at the climate camp acted in a manner wholly incompatible with their remit.
Were these Met or City police? Were they acting under orders? If so, who's orders? If not, why are they not facing criminal charges?The police in this city are a poisonous lot of arrogant thugs who think it is their job to intimidate the public, rather than serve them. Now Boris is chairing the MPA I want to see the mayor kicking some arses over this.
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lets get all Greece on their assses
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For the police to say he died because the protesters stopped him getting medical attention is sick.
this whole episode has really put the police at the bottom of societies ladder
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What reasons do we have now to believe the police's story that protesters chucked bottles at them as the medic came to help him?
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what was the Mendes outcome, anyone remember?
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For the police to say he died because the protesters stopped him getting medical attention is sick.
this whole episode has really put the police at the bottom of societies ladder
Those of us who remember the Hillsborough disaster some twenty years ago this month, know full well that the police will spread misinformation and bare faced lies to protect their own. No-one from the South Yorkshire police was ever convicted for their abdication of responsibility.
It seems the Met and the City of London police have both failed to learn any lessons from this. Let's hope that the rule of law is applied to all UK citizens as it should be.
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what was the Mendes outcome, anyone remember?
A sweet fuck all.
"... Someone failed to inform someone else... who then didn't do this ... which then led to this... but overall no-one did anything wrong. And yeah, those people got a really nasty slap on the wrist!"
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Just saw the video on the news of the police pushing that guy - ridiculous, i hope they haul someone up for that
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He did the odd recording with the Black Eyed Peas, such as Mas Que Nada.
The de Menezes inquest returned an open verdict.
But, in all fairness, he was a dangerously foreign looking sort, once he had been photoshopped a bit.
i meant ze mendes ;)
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A sweet fuck all.
"... Someone failed to inform someone else... who then didn't do this ... which then led to this... but overall no-one did anything wrong. And yeah, those people got a really nasty slap on the wrist!"
With plenty of paid gardening leave and compensation for the stress caused. i wonder what would happen if they got off, for once i'd love to see a riot.. i mean proper riot
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It would be ironic, if it were not so tragic.i was just about to post this video. what arse holes. completely unnecessary to whack him in the leg then push him over while his back is turned.
some police are essentially just adult bullies, notice i said some police. while i was there i did have conversations with a few nice welsh coppers.
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Like I have said, the police can be violent pricks when they get the chance, the G20 was a typical display of inane policing that exacerbated frustrations and added to the hostilities, as well as blatantly denying the democratic right to protest.
Quite right. And just for the record, events like the kettling at Oxford Circus in 2001 seriously intimidated people from going on protests again. Like I said earlier, if used as a paramilitary force, the police are completely out of their depth. You often meet really committed and dedicated individual police officers who do a good job, and no-one could live without that function of the police (much as I'd love us to get back to a utopia where communities could police themselves, but that's quite unrealistic, of course).
It's the old problem of how you're assertive--meaning that you can get your point across in such a way that the other party can agree and be OK with it. That's pretty much an impossible task at a protest like this given the general condition of society, but most of the police behaviour on display was merely aggressive. At the same time, many of the officers will have been profoundly scared and intimidated. But that's often when people lash out uncontrollably. The attack on Ian Tomlinson was just pure thuggery, though. A defenseless man who isn't trying to obstruct anything, walks with a mobility difficulty, and was at a very low point in his life, being attacked like this.
The police seem to have themselves confused as to what their role is when it comes to public demonstrations, there role is facilitate the demonstration, allow it to proceed, protect the public as a whole, their role is not to impede demonstration, 'kettle' or otherwise detain people who have committed no crime, nor is their role to instigate violence or attack the protesters in any way.
All of this is spot on and if put into practice would constitute the assertiveness I talked about above.
And let's not forget that the tragedy of Ian Tomlinson's death is just the tip of an iceberg of events, one which comprises both a lot of the joy and success of parts of the protests, such as the Climate Camp (which in all the outrage must be stressed, too), and lots of mini-tragedies that happened that day because of the heavy-handed policing and that probably weren't filmed, and luckily no-one died in them. But a lot of people would have had the wind knocked out of them to go protesting again. Others will have become even angrier than before. I think there absolutely needs to be an inquiry into the rush on the Climate Camp, e.g. who ordered it.
The 'waterline' of the iceberg may mark the division where things were filmed and recorded and where they weren't. People were laughing about the huge presence of photographers and cameramen, but if it develops further, it might end up doing some good at events like this where brutality really needs to be recorded. All too often, the truth about a process has been obscured afterwards, simply because it was possible. For instance, I bet that one motivation for the police to rush the Climate Camp was because the BBC camera had gone--their reporter only reported on it very briefly at the beginning of the day, and then all subsequent coverage focused on the BoE.
I do hope something meaningful will come out fo the inquiry into the death, but I'm not holding out high hopes.
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Fucking wankers! From behind aswell...the poor fella had his hands in his pockets and was walking home ffs!! I'd hope that the copper that killed him will get banged up but as we all know fuck all will happen. He'll get suspended on full pay while 'enquiries'(although it's plain as day on fucking video) take place.
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And let's not forget that the tragedy of Ian Tomlinson's death is just the tip of an iceberg of events, one which comprises both a lot of the joy and success of parts of the protests, such as the Climate Camp (which in all the outrage must be stressed, too), and lots of mini-tragedies that happened that day because of the heavy-handed policing and that probably weren't filmed, and luckily no-one died in them. But a lot of people would have had the wind knocked out of them to go protesting again. Others will have become even angrier than before. I think there absolutely needs to be an inquiry into the rush on the Climate Camp, e.g. who ordered it.
agreed - this was brutal and has no place in this so called civilized nation. but it needs those who sustained injuries to come forward and take the police to court. i can't see this happening as the injuries were not that bad, try prove bruises etc. its very much one word against the other - they charged us and we had our hands in the air in a peaceful protest
Po Po - several missiles were launched at us and the trouble makers were in behind the line of protesters who were protecting them..
all court costs will come out of our pockets..
i hope they name the police men.women who are guilty. there is no way they should be protected. i am not looking for a lynching but other police should see the public out cry and hatred towards that mans actions. they might just then think twice!
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