• OK I'm convinced. Scientific argument is really persuasive.

    Well, I've read those links and seen that there are really very few arguments within them that are based on scientific knowledge. They are the tabloid equivalent of 'science', and the vast majority of the arguments in them are bullshit. I don't care about convincing you, because the evidence that they are bullshit is contained within their pages.

    Who's arguing that? Climate changes; that's what happens. Its man's contribution that's at issue.
    No it's not. Firstly MMCC had not been discussed in these pages, so it is not at issue; secondly the point was that your use of the 'well they used to say we're entering an ice age' was I presume used to show that scientists are changing their minds on the behaviour of the climate, which in the instance of an impending ice age, they are not.

    No. No. That is the equivalent of saying "there has been no warming in the last ten years". Just that and nothing more. Don't put words into my mouth.
    Your statement that says there has been no warming in the last ten years may well be true, but I would imagine you put that point forward to make some sort of statement about climatic change. Many people use this argument to suggest that there is no warming occurring, and they are wrong to do so. As badtmy pointed out, warming occurs regionally to extremes whilst not affecting the overall global mean. The warmest years on record occurred 10 to 15 years ago, so to say there has been no warming since then is daft, as the current mean is still higher than it had been prior to those years.

    I'm the scientist; listen to me. But what if there are other scientists who take a different view? - http://www.uncommondescent.com/science/400-scientists-disputed-man-made-global-warming-us-senate-report/ and http://www.heartland.org/events/NewYork09/newyork09.html

    Oh hell, we'll have to decide for ourselves. Which is why I put up the original links.

    I agree, but put up some decent links if you want to convince people, not nonsense websites and opinion pieces based on hearsay and politics.

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