• The thing is, we remember such incidents because they occur so infrequently as to be memorable and with enough human impact as to be newsworthy. I'd argue that citing such incidents are counter-productive to discussion as their anomolous status is at odds to what we will expect to happen.

    I ride by my own experience and, as such, I'm mostly a boringly lawful cyclist who mostly observes red lights and most of the myriad laws that are designed to control the passage of cyclists on the streets. All I can offer on this discussion is that for the most part I don't feel unsafe by doing so and it's been a long time since I was taken down. I'm not a talented or especially good cyclist but I think very little of my survival is down to luck.

    I also don't prejudge drivers either.

    Best wishes to the rider.

    I don't disagree entirely with what you've said. I only cited that example in direct response to the suggestion that there are no circumstances where RLJing (in its broadest sense) is safer.

    Surely there's something to be said about taking any opportunity to remind people about HGVs and their blindspots - as dogsballs has pointed out, there are a lot of "newbie numpties" visiting lfgss these days.

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