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there is a big difference between P-M and GA2G. One has constantly antagonised for no good reason, the other has provided possibly the most valuable resources on the forum. Yes the lists upset some people, though they tend to be ones who are worried about protecting their precious 'scene'.
One was a troll by definition, the other a valued contributor.
P-M was given a great deal of slack and a lot of advice (both on cycling and etiquette) he consistently ignored or argued with the advice he was given.
I was flamed and grilled for my first few posts, with hindsight rightly so. Hopefully I learned from the advice, and have subsequently made some really good friends here.