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@nes
no i agree but every day i cycle to rochdale or to the peaks for work and i spend it all on busy roads and then get to school and never get to ride the beautiful bits only the dirty A6...and so i kinda hate that bit of a stretch now and would rather miss it out at the weekend and start in the lovely bits...but i guess there are better ways to go, as you suggested...but yes that climb is tough,,but then never quite as bad as i imagine...it just seems to go on forever...i hate going down it more than up it too, as with all hills after a lorry in spain appeared from nowhere in front of me when i was going down a mountain...am prolly slower on descent than going up!!!