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• #102
Whilst this was happening I was fisting his missus..
What's all this fisting talk lately hippy, is there a sale on at Robert dyer's for Marrigolds on some thing?
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• #103
I have 7 lights attached to me, I think I do my part, I may add an eighth light soon though, possibly even a ninth also...
Seven? And I thought I was being good with four.
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• #104
That's crazy, all black?
They're even a danger to other cyclists, I mean some roads get pretty dark and if you're slightly short sighted like me, those guys are invisible.Hi-vis ftw. Surprised by how little people wear it on here. I mean from what I've seen at Trixie dix, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one sporting the fluoro anorak :P
I must say, I wear all black mostly when I am on my bike. Like a stealth cyclist, I dont want to be seen by anyone until the last moment and then its too late, cos I have gone
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• #105
well, thinking about it, i've only really lost it once with this bus driver who deliberately hit me from behind last year, i was so angry i threw my mountain bike through his front window, then quickly rode the fuck off (with my handlebars all bent).
best road rage incident ever.
Nice one!
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• #106
well, thinking about it, i've only really lost it once with this bus driver who deliberately hit me from behind last year, i was so angry i threw my mountain bike through his front window, then quickly rode the fuck off (with my handlebars all bent).
best road rage incident ever.
I was going up High St Ken last year when a bus almost clipped me.After shouting at the driver I buggered off and forgot about it.About a minute later this cnut decided to cut me up and jam me into the kerb!Enraged and looking for revenge I waited till he got to next stop then lifted up the flap at the back and saw the "ENGINE STOP" button.I turned it off whilst looking at him in the cab wondering WTF was happening as he tired to pull away.He saw me and went fucking apeshit,he got out and wanted a fight.I rode off laughing my nuts off.The cnut.
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• #107
paneer you mean.
That's a type of cheese you muppetWhen you realise how hard it is to keep track of a cyclist when driving, i think you'd appreciate the fluoro standing out.
Uh... what's so hard about it (unless you have tunnel vision)?
it does make a difference, but only when driver do decided to look out, I have Fluoro on in the past (old hand-me-down one, got it replaced by a Swrve jacket), and honestly the behaviour of vehicle drivers is just the same, fluoro make it easier for them to spot when they decided to look out for cyclists as they should.
In the past few months I've been wearing all black, and no word of a lie, I can't remember the last time someone pulled out on me or cut me up, or anything like that. As a result I'm a lot more chilled out when I cycle.
Before that, I used to wear a bright white top and a white helmet in the day, and a fluoro + retroreflective vest at night, and back then I was a lot angrier because I seemed to be victim to some sort of motorist twattery at least once per day. I got knocked off my bike on a roundabout while wearing a white top, apparently she didn't see me.
This obviously doesn't mean that I think it's safer to wear black, but it's pretty confusing to me, surely it should be the other way around.
I should add that when I'm driving, I do prefer it when cyclists wear fluoro vests, I'm not sure if I spot them sooner, but I definitely *notice *them more.
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• #108
motorist twattery
I should add that when I'm driving, I do prefer it when cyclists wear fluoro vests, I'm not sure if I spot them sooner, but I definitely *notice *them more.
+1 on both accounts
i like cyclists to be fluoro when i'm walking aswell
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• #109
I have 7 lights attached to me, I think I do my part, I may add an eighth light soon though, possibly even a ninth also...
I've said this before......the drivers you have to worry about aren't going to see you if you have one light or are lit up like a christmas tree....
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• #110
I should add that when I'm driving, I do prefer it when cyclists wear fluoro vests, I'm not sure if I spot them sooner, but I definitely *notice *them more.
If thats the difference between getting hit and not getting hit, then surely it's worth it?
I hate it when I see people cycling at night with no lights, wearing all dark colours. You really don't appreciate how hard you are to see without lights until you see someone else doing it.
It would help if car headlights were dimmer to begin with. At night you don't see other cars, you see other car lights. This makes people look for the two bright lights, rather than what is actually on the road. If cars used lights of a similar brightness to a good bike light, you would actually be able to see a lot more on the roads, as you could see past the lights. Obviously, there is a time and a place for full beam, but I'm talking about inner city stuff here on fully lit streets.
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• #111
If thats the difference between getting hit and not getting hit, then surely it's worth it?
I hate it when I see people cycling at night with no lights, wearing all dark colours. You really don't appreciate how hard you are to see without lights until you see someone else doing it.
It would help if car headlights were dimmer to begin with. At night you don't see other cars, you see other car lights. This makes people look for the two bright lights, rather than what is actually on the road. If cars used lights of a similar brightness to a good bike light, you would actually be able to see a lot more on the roads, as you could see past the lights. Obviously, there is a time and a place for full beam, but I'm talking about inner city stuff here on fully lit streets.
I wasn't talking about at night, I was talking about during the day. I use two or four lights at night and would never ride in the dark with no lights on.
But I agree with what you say about car headlights - there's no need for them to be that bright in city centres, they're dazzling.
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• #112
is it me or is there a shit lot of winging today? its got to the point where i have to agree with Dale!
if you are angry/surprised by ungainly cyclists, aggressive car drivers and day dreaming peds why not leave your bike at home and jump on the tube. Before you know it you'll be angry at the lack of space, people pushing for seats, the constant delay and the disgusting over charging.
What do you expect, long clear flat traffic free flat roads with free beer stops and a support car in tow?
woohoo!
i noticed actually that there's quite an anti fluoro thing going on.
I first noticed it when Dale mentioned it when i bought some spokes off him.
Not that I'm singling anyone out here.The rub for me is that fluoro does make you MORE visible.
That makes it worth every penny.they don't have magic powers that protect you, thats my issue. people seem to think if they have heaps of lights, reflectors, fluoro jackets that they are safe. you're not. you need to have bike skills to avoid situations that put you in danger or can react to them.
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• #113
nodders should die
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• #114
and peds meandering through the middle of roads, who then give you shit for nearly clipping them, they all deserve a bendy bus. cunts.
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• #115
I've said this before......the drivers you have to worry about aren't going to see you if you have one light or are lit up like a christmas tree....
trudat. if they're reaching for a ginsters pasty in the passenger footwell, while texing their mate and changing the music, lighting a fag and stopping the kids from fighting in the back, as they re-programme the sat-nav, they're going to hit you, however visible you look.
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• #116
woohoo!
they don't have magic powers that protect you, thats my issue. people seem to think if they have heaps of lights, reflectors, fluoro jackets that they are safe. you're not. you need to have bike skills to avoid situations that put you in danger or can react to them.
Exactly - if anything, reflective jackets just make it easier for drivers to aim for you when they're about to run you over or throw stuff at you.
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• #117
I've said this before......the drivers you have to worry about aren't going to see you if you have one light or are lit up like a christmas tree....
+1
I have two high powered front lights, two decent back lights, Hi-viz jacket and reflective gloves + overshoes.
(I am the nodder king tis true)Yet were I live it is considered wrong to cycle on the road, so people dont believe that you are on the road, and therefore their brains dont let them see you.
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• #118
the paint work on my raleigh lizard is bright enough, I don't need no hi-viz shit.
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• #119
+1
I have two high powered front lights, two decent back lights, Hi-viz jacket and reflective gloves + overshoes.
(I am the nodder king tis true)Spotted... Smallfurry
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• #120
drivers have a little more respect for you if they know that you've done your part too. i.e fluoro and sufficient lights. It's meeting them half way. Like all other roads uses MUST do by law.
What do you mean 'done your part'? Does being on a bike somehow dispense drivers of their duty to look where they're fucking going?
I agree with the lights part, but fluoro? Nobody has to wear fluoro by law!
I'll agree that wearing it makes you more visible, but I honestly don't believe it makes you safer. You can wear all the lights and reflective clothing in the world, but it's much more important to know how to ride your bike properly. I think that can sometimes be a problem - people put on the 'safety' gear, then ride like bellends and wonder why they're getting shouted at/knocked off their bikes.
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• #121
people put on the 'safety' gear, then ride like bellends and wonder why they're getting shouted at/knocked off their bikes.
Agreed. I cringe every time I see someone like that, weaving all over the place because they cant keey their balance etc.
I think lights do help you get noticed, but there isn't anything you can do to make those drivers that just aren't paying fuck all attention in the first place to notice you. Until it's too late and you get the "Oh my god I'm so sorry, I just didn't see you!" treatment. But by then it's too late :(
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• #122
I'm kitted out like smallfurry... two front lights, at least two back lights (up to four depending on bike/backpack) and hi-vis/floro...
I don't wear it to be seen, I wear it for the same reason I generally don't go through lights or undertake, I don't want people to have any ammunition against me or cyclists in general.
If some fucker runs me over and kills me, I don't want a lawyer to be able to say it was in any way my fault...
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• #123
Hi vis or not, driving like a bellend is going to get you killed. I find as long as you are acertive in your actions, signal in good time, show your intentions clearly and follow through safely, people will treat you like any other vehicle. The Hi-vis just makes it more likely for drivers to see you. That's it. It won't save you from a 44t vehicle's blind spot and won't stop you from getting crushed or shoved off the road. The reason people cycle dangerously with them on is not because they think it has magic superpowerzzz which give you infity life, but because they assume that they are automatically targetted by driver's eyes and are therefore safe.
Also, chill out you cunts :)
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• #124
Spotted... Smallfurry
Tehe. Hardcore nodders indeed. No wonder some of them are wearing eyeblack.
Hi Viz Smallfurry.
If I were to be honest, and show how much of a bitter shite I really am. There is a part of me that thinks, that when I am lying in the gutter after being hit. The toerag driver will look/feel extra shitty, if I look like a lollypop lady riding a wheeled Xmas tree.
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• #125
last night on my commute home, I had a fellow cyclist flip out on me for pulling up along side him at some lights, then taking off before he did.
We had to turn right and all of a sudden on the outside of me I noticed a front wheel inline with my cranks and edging closer. I was like "this nodder doesn't know how to ride". before I knew it i felt an elbow in my back as he was trying to knock me off!! WTF! then he started giving me some verbal stick at which point i cracked up, and was laughing.
our paths diverged and the last thing i heard was "by the way, you look like a cock on that bike!". had to pull over and wait until the laughter dissipated. (btw was riding my girlfriends bike as i had a flat y'day morning and was late for work - so I was too big for the frame, but a cock is stretching it a bit?!)
on reflection, wish i had followed him and stopped and told him what a cock he was. there was a bus on our arse as he was elbowing me and could have ended very messily.
if you are said cock - please chillout in future. you may not be picking on such a good natured cyclist in future. (and also thanks for putting me in a good mood after a very stressful day in the office)
Should have kicked him off his fucking bike when he was crowding you. I hate fucking assholes, they should always be confronted. I always hope to teach the fuckers some fucking manners with a trip to their fucking dentist. Other than that I'm a pretty mellow guy
Whilst this was happening I was fisting his missus..