• Thanks for the Sesame snaps Oliver, a real treat..

    I suppose we could night ride to anywhere as long as there is a good train service home again

    BTW there's nothing stopping us from riding out and back--perhaps a distance like 45 miles each way.

    I personally think that the best, most successful format is DD-like--ride to the coast for the sunrise, but perhaps if another attractive destination could be found an out-and-back ride might work, too. This is just a thought without any research, though.

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