Alley cats

oh Jonny ya silly sausage, you've done the equivalent of walking into a club and loudly asking if anyone knows where the drugs are and then bellyaching cos someone sold you an oxo cube…

Alleycats tend to be a bit word of mouth and are not 'seen' to be organised because if anything goes wrong or if someone gets hurt then no-one wants to get jacked with a prosecution or a liability case.

Very often they are courier based events with informal participation for non-couriers.

so you don't tend to wander around a public forum shouting it out. You got bagged for that so take it on the chin fella

ride safe…

point taken big daddy.it was my mistake to have asked the question in the first place.