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even more? don't you think it's a little too short already? if you find that the champ grip (cost a tenner) doesn't go all the way in, then it's far too short!

this is how I cut my bar, if it shorter than the top part of the drop bar, it's too short;

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh167/edscoble/barwidth.jpg

Ed, if you're going to get uppity about handlebar widths, then you should at least learn how to cut your bars down correctly. You should be cutting them based on your shoulder width rather than the width of your drops. You could try holding the bars in your hands, arms straight - you should feel comfortable lifting your arms from your sides to above your head, holding the bars. Or something like that.

It may be that your shoulders happen to be the width of your drop bars, but it's probably likely that they want to be a bit wider. :)