Cicli Berlinetta

hello,

i have tried to search the forum and found nothing on cicli berlinetta other than people saying to check the shop out if ever they are in berlin. well, i plan to be in about a little over a month and may buy one of there frames. just wondering if anyone on here owns one of their frames, what they think of them - build quality etc, after sales?

any advice would be welcomed?

http://www.cicli-berlinetta.de/ciclib_frames13.html

is the one that has caught my eye in black with the straight forks.

they're nice. what tubing do they use?

they're nice. what tubing do they use?

from the full built page -

Tubing - Columbus Aelle

for 530€ you can choose your own colour without any decals and if you want with drilling for the front. the frame is nice, but the tubing isn't it.

for 530€ you can choose your own colour without any decals and if you want with drilling for the front. the frame is nice, but the tubing isn't it.

in what way?

surely if its good enough for these guys -

Famous name builders such as Bianchi, De Rosa, Ciocc, Pinarello and Colnago all specified the Columbus tubesets as part of their range.

Aelle is the cheapest tubing columbus makes.

The frame it selfe is very beautifull.

But nothing special. It's typical for quality bikeshops who want to make their own frame, uses Aelle tubing.

Cheap, and looks nice. just like http://fixie-king.dk/wordpress/?p=27 though it also has dedaccia tubing.

just came across this thread also -

https://www.londonfgss.com/thread5031.html

My old Concrode was Aelle, ended up twisted... it's a lightweight but weak tubing (when compared to better), see here:

http://equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm

My old Concrode was Aelle, ended up twisted... it's a lightweight but weak tubing (when compared to better), see here:

http://equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm

well i would not want a twisted frame, how did you manage that?

I have one of those frames on the fixie-king.dk-link... And I like it a lot, a bit on the heavy side, would guess the frame+forks weigh in at around 3kg, but it has survived a few crashes..

Actually I would have thought that Cicli Berlinetta had the frame build with the same tubing.. But if their page says otherwise then I guess not.

The frame was twisted in an accident... so fair is fair: Van came across me, engaged my foot/pedal, I was moved forwards under the van and it squished the front fork and left the frame with a twisted footprint, wheels and pedals/cranks were fine and I reckon I've done worse to other frames with much less damage.

The frame was twisted in an accident... so fair is fair: Van came across me, engaged my foot/pedal, I was moved forwards under the van and it squished the front fork and left the frame with a twisted footprint, wheels and pedals/cranks were fine and I reckon I've done worse to other frames with much less damage.

fair do's. you made it sound like it twisted out of poor quality build or you are he-man or somehting. hehe.

looks likes these frames may be style over substance at the moment then. look good but may be heavy etc.

i'm also gonna check out the keirin cafe in berlin as i beleive they sell frames also.

all food for throught.

I've got a Pinarello road frame in Aelle I run as a fixed, it's a fantastic frame, good ride quality and really tough. Aelle tubing is by it's nature pretty strong because it is not butted, just thick(er) walled. Like all these things, the frame design and quality of construction is as important as the tubing itself. You can give the best tubeset known to man to a crap frame builder and you'll get a crap frame. So, there's nothing intrinsically bad about Aelle, it's just not a top notch tube set, and not the lightest. But if it's used well, you won't notice the difference on the road. No idea how good Cicli Berlinetta are, but they look well made as far as you can tell from a photo.

the fixie king is £430 shippped to the UK the berlinetta is £480. both can come in black my prefered choice.

conn artist: My trackbikeshop (or fixie-king if thats what you want to call it) when I first build it up.
(Have posted this in other threads as well)

I've got a Pinarello road frame in Aelle I run as a fixed, it's a fantastic frame, good ride quality and really tough. Aelle tubing is by it's nature pretty strong because it is not butted, just thick(er) walled. Like all these things, the frame design and quality of construction is as important as the tubing itself. You can give the best tubeset known to man to a crap frame builder and you'll get a crap frame. So, there's nothing intrinsically bad about Aelle, it's just not a top notch tube set, and not the lightest. But if it's used well, you won't notice the difference on the road. No idea how good Cicli Berlinetta are, but they look well made as far as you can tell from a photo.

I have a Pinarello track, but with 'Forma' tubing. I'd like to see a pic of yours.

conn artist: My trackbikeshop (or fixie-king if thats what you want to call it) when I first build it up.
(Have posted this in other threads as well)

looks good, did the frame cost the same i have been quated 3300DK?

There's a list of foreign frames on this forum, and you would have found it there.

I like their stuff.

looks good, did the frame cost the same i have been quated 3300DK?

It did.. I think I payed 3500DK including a Tange headset.

Hip.

Thats hot ^

What are the tyres?

There's a list of foreign frames on this forum, and you would have found it there.

I like their stuff.

that link there just leads back to the cicli website which tells me nothing really that groundbreaking. just looking for a bit of personal experiance, hence the thread.

Thats hot ^

What are the tyres?

Michelin pro race by the looks

with the exchange rate being what it is, it seems a bit pricey...

with the exchange rate being what it is, it seems a bit pricey...

it is, thats wahts putting me off at the mo.