Wanted: Reynolds 853 Track Frame 54cm

I like my 631 Soma and my SAT14 Condor more than my 531 Raleigh but the Raleigh is retro cool.
I'd still bin them all for S-Works carbon :)

OP: Just buy a bike and ride it. Tubing makes far less difference than tyre pressure.

asm had some didn't he?

before someone else says it
you seem to know nothing about tubing
and or frames
if i was youd id get a frame ride it
and youd not notice any difference especially riding on the road
I have, or have had:
Aluminium w/Carbon seatstays, compact (Allez Elite 2008)
Aluminium, semi-compact (Dawes Discovery)
Reynolds 531 (handbuilt, lugged)
Reynolds 631 (Dawes Audax, tig welded)
Reynolds 853 (Raleigh Special Products, tig welded)

I know that I like steel MUCH more than aluminium, and I know how much I want to spend.

"Not notice any difference on the road", LOL? With high pressure tyres and many different road surfaces and pot holes... not to mention that you actually sit in the saddle on road bikes, I would argue it makes more difference than MTB. MTB is more to do with your shocks and saddle than frame material.

Unless you have something helpful to say, please take a hike.

asm had some didn't he?

what? tyres pressure?

youll notice the difference between aluminum, steel and carbon
but you wont notice the difference between different steels
there is so much emphasis put on this

lighter, thinner tubes, and stronger

if u got a a volume square inch of eiter 531, 631, 653, 753, 853, 953 they would invariably all weigh the same +/- a little.
Its the strength that matters, stronger means u can draw it thinner.
If that makes sense. :)

sorry RPM you misunderstood, I have 853 reynolds 1 track frames, not 1 reynolds 853. Reynolds 1 is a bit radical - it's just made from solid steel; pretty heavy.

Nah you can get a bit chopped out and have a square boss put in I am pretty sure. The normal bridge tubing isnt strong enough for the brake bolt.

This was what i thought, hence me asking. But if you're prepared to have it modified by a frame builder/repairer, then cool!

sorry RPM you misunderstood, I have 853 reynolds 1 track frames, not 1 reynolds 853. Reynolds 1 is a bit radical - it's just made from solid steel; pretty heavy.

I apologize, all these numbers are very confusing..

531, 700c, 31.8, 1 1/8, 50x14, 52/2, 598/9 declared..umpire says it's time for tea, ooh, scones and jam, bone china.. isn't it, jumpers for goalposts..

Sorry by track frame I mean horizontal dropouts. Will be for single speed/fixed flip-flop. Preferably in bad condition (cheaper) because I think I'll be having bottle cage bosses added which will damage the paint anyway.

Nah you can get a bit chopped out and have a square boss put in I am pretty sure. The normal bridge tubing isnt strong enough for the brake bolt.

If you're going to have that much brazing done on a frame, followed by a new paint job, you might as well have a new frame built. Save the pennies for a while and then go spend.

Ok, so here's come pics:

https://www.londonfgss.com/thread12480.html