yo chaps
does anyone know if there is a requirement for us to inform the authorities on something like this... it could easily be 250 riders plus and i would hate for the police to ruin things
i may be being stupid, i dunno... anyone got experience of these things? law degree?
two more quickies|: just to say another thanks to everyone on these forums... all of us eilidh friends are blown away, AMAZING
and lastly, anyone know a cheap printer... may get shed loads of eilidh spoke cards for teh day done
feel free to contact me directly
yo peeps increase the peas
The main problem is that we have no leader. Even this ride... many individuals want to make a memorial ride, it wasn't necessarily called by an individual who leads it.
The guidelines really show that the law needs a leader, but I recognise no leader amongst us. We collectively share a view that a memorial ride needs to happen, and upon a suggestion of the date have collectively agreed to be on the ride... but no leader told us to.
Without a leader/organiser we don't fall under those laws. And reading the guidelines it's clear that they are aimed at political demonstrations. We don't fall foul of any of the considerations the police use, there will be no damage to serious public disorder, serious damage to property, or serious disruption to the life of a community. So whilst we don't even fall under their definition of a march (no organiser) we also don't fall under the exclusions (no impact).
All we should definitely agree to do as individuals is to ensure that everyone who takes part is given relative safety in the group, and that we cause as little unnecessary disruption to the traffic in the area (keep a lane clear and keep moving where possible).
For the tweed ride we agreed to gather in a public space that didn't block the highway, once the route is shared (Eilidh's commute route) we should try and do the same afterwards... a meeting place that causes little disruption close to the starting point, and then a place to move onto afterwards to ensure we don't block up the whole of Notting Hill Gate (it's a Saturday... market day).
There are guidelines here:
http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-right-of-peaceful-protest/marches-and-processions.html
The main problem is that we have no leader. Even this ride... many individuals want to make a memorial ride, it wasn't necessarily called by an individual who leads it.
The guidelines really show that the law needs a leader, but I recognise no leader amongst us. We collectively share a view that a memorial ride needs to happen, and upon a suggestion of the date have collectively agreed to be on the ride... but no leader told us to.
Without a leader/organiser we don't fall under those laws. And reading the guidelines it's clear that they are aimed at political demonstrations. We don't fall foul of any of the considerations the police use, there will be no damage to serious public disorder, serious damage to property, or serious disruption to the life of a community. So whilst we don't even fall under their definition of a march (no organiser) we also don't fall under the exclusions (no impact).
All we should definitely agree to do as individuals is to ensure that everyone who takes part is given relative safety in the group, and that we cause as little unnecessary disruption to the traffic in the area (keep a lane clear and keep moving where possible).
For the tweed ride we agreed to gather in a public space that didn't block the highway, once the route is shared (Eilidh's commute route) we should try and do the same afterwards... a meeting place that causes little disruption close to the starting point, and then a place to move onto afterwards to ensure we don't block up the whole of Notting Hill Gate (it's a Saturday... market day).