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shame god doesn't use a spellchecker eh Prav? too busy watching you have a sly one…

Crazy religious fucks

HA!

shame god doesn't use a spellchecker eh Prav? too busy watching you have a sly one…

ha!

How do they differ from other Christians ?

I would say they are as representative of Christianity as any other church.

There is a kind of cherry picking going when we attempt to deal with religion, we pick and choose using our own Western liberal culture as our guide, when we find anything in Islam/Christianity (or any religion) that falls four of our own values we say "that is not representative of Islam/Christianity" - even if it is canonical to that religion.

Guilty as charged! All accurate and well put as usual Dr T. I guess I stuggle a little with objectivity on the matter of religion. I'm pretty well read on the monster that is the RC church and the 'governing bodies' of other major faiths, along with the absurdity of pretty much most religious doctrine. I understand that religion is a manifestation of man's ignorance, fear, greed, predjudice,... (insert your own words here).

I guess my reluctance to resolutely decry religion is the fact that most of the people 'of faith' that I have met during my life have been on the whole good, moderate people. When I've caught a whiff of say, homophobia excused by scripture I've challenged it; I have fucked them off if they try to force their dogma on me, thankfully I have rarely had to either.

I suppose amongst many logical flaws I'm guilty of some form of 'argumentum ad hominun' in reverse!

Unfortunately I am so cynical as to think that alot of people are twancunts (I'd love to be proven wrong). I also know that alot of these twancunts are religious, and do bad things 'in the name of God'. People then seem to extrapolate from that and think religion=twancuntishness.

None of my bollocks is aimed at any one or anything posted here. Just thinking out loud I guess. Back to the buses!

I also know that alot of these twancunts are religious, and do bad things 'in the name of God'. People then seem to extrapolate from that and think religion=twancuntishness.

I would say that was pretty much true, a lot of people hold all religion in contempt for some of it's nastier habits.

But even if religion were not actively promoting the spread of AIDs in Africa, splitting communities along religious line in Northern Ireland, attempting to stultify the education of children in the UK or fuelling war and misogyny and bigotry and cruelty around the world, I would still hold it in contempt for it's intellectual dishonesty.

The fact that Catholic priests have a recent history of raping children put into their trust (and the Catholic church's reaction to this crime is to protect the priests from prosecution) to me is a side-show to the real problem of the long term damage religion has done to people's ability to think critically, it has retarded humanity on a global scale, kept us in the infancy of our development.

I didn't realise there was a generator! So I don't need potato chop skillz! Woot

Ha!

.....to the real problem of the long term damage religion has done to people's ability to think critically, it has retarded humanity on a global scale, kept us in the infancy of our development.

Ok, so how would a hypothetical secular human history look? Personally I can't see it. It would need the majority of people to be intelligent, open-minded and at least a little fearless. We are fortunate that in this day and age we can answer many of the questions about the world and our place in it, but what about those dark, early days?

I don't think religion is some malign force stalking us, fettering our development. I believe embracing (even the need for) religion is innate to the majority of us and that to write a history of mankind free of religion is to seriously modify what we are.

Must. Stop. Drinking. Big. Botttles. Of. Leffe.