The new Kinesis Fixed... thoughts?

i imagine some generic 7005 as most alu bikes are

kinesis make frames for lots of other manufacturers, they used to be only a contract manufacturer before making their own range of bikes.

i'd buy that for a dollar

for a dollar you can have half a lime, nothing more

"Let's put track ends on our standard aly road frame...."

...it's companies like this that deserve to die in the credit crunch...

"Let's put track ends on our standard aly road frame...."

...it's companies like this that deserve to die in the credit crunch...

some company did it far better, like the Fixie Inc. one.

"Let's put track ends on our standard aly road frame...."

...it's companies like this that deserve to die in the credit crunch...

What is so wrong with doing that if someone is after a road going frame that they can used fixed then that is a good solution isn't it?

What changes should be made other than the dropouts/track ends to make it acceptable to you?

Can't say the colour scheme does anything for me at all. But got to agree with kerley. If you were after a fixed bike for winter training or commuting and weren't bothered by having to have steep track-oriented geometry then swapping the dropouts on a standard road frame is a good option. Even better if you can swap the dropouts, as then you could have the same bike geared in summer, fixed in winter, if that was your thing and you were short on space.

some company did it far better, like the Fixie Inc. one.

That's debatable

It's nowt impressive..

That's debatable

the Fixie Inc. Pure Blood Cyclocross machine;

surely better than the one above, it's dropout can be swapped for a track end, downside? made from 4130, not a bad material, just fucking expensive for £820 frame + fork, might as well go for a hand made bike made from Reynolds tubing.

fair enough, for the money it's not that great.

The pillar box red one's a bit nicer (and already set up for flickwg):

Yep, I love that Pure Blood but I do think it's ridiculously overpriced for what it is. You'd be better off getting a Singular Peregrine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/singularcycles/sets/72157608998417941/

Yep, I love that Pure Blood but I do think it's ridiculously overpriced for what it is. You'd be better off getting a Singular Peregrine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/singularcycles/sets/72157608998417941/

Nice - but not really a horse for the same course - it's more of a Pompino type machine though (slack angles, huge clearances, all 4130).

some company did it far better, like the Swagger. one.

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I have come back and looked at it twice and it has still failed to impress me,
i think it looks heavy and needs a new chain ring, maybe a bigger one

What is so wrong with doing that if someone is after a road going frame that they can used fixed then that is a good solution isn't it?

What changes should be made other than the dropouts/track ends to make it acceptable to you?

Fair play you're quite right...there are bigger crimes in the world...it's just that I remember the days when the whole spirit of the fixed gear scene was converting old road bikes, finding a gem of a track frame in somebody's garage etc etc etc...

....I don't know now there are so many of these fat tubed road aly road frames with track ends smacked on the back...it just seems a bit sad Iguess...

..but yep each to their own...

People on here are shit scared of change or anything new, it's like being in Missouri sometimes

Fair play you're quite right...there are bigger crimes in the world...it's just that I remember the days when the whole spirit of the fixed gear scene was converting old road bikes, finding a gem of a track frame in somebody's garage etc etc etc...

....I don't know now there are so many of these fat tubed road aly road frames with track ends smacked on the back...it just seems a bit sad Iguess...

..but yep each to their own...

Have you thought that is maybe because a fat tubed aly road geometry frame with track ends may make a better road fixed than an old steel conversion or a tight geometry track bike?

I am not too worried about halcyon days or the 'fixed scene' myself.

(must point out that I don't ride one of these myself, even though it may make a better road bike than my tight geometry track bike!)

I don't know, if you want to have the best of both world, I find that having a track frame and a road fork offer me the best comfort.

slightly (very slightly) less zippier than with a track fork, but a bit more comfortable for doing 100 miles a week.

it's just that I remember the days when the whole spirit of the fixed gear scene was converting old road bikes, finding a gem of a track frame in somebody's garage etc etc etc...

I remember the days before the 'fixed gear scene', though not as far back as when my grandad was part of a large group of people riding fixed on cycling holidays across the UK in the pre and post-WW2 era.

I don't think any of them gave a flying fuck about much, except making their bikes lighter, so they'd probably have been glad of a fat-tubed alu frame.

This weird autistic romanticism of a current hobby/obsession seems to get in the way of 'the whole spirit' of getting on a bike that's fit for purpose, and riding the fuck out of it.

+1

I don't know, if you want to have the best of both world, I find that having a track frame and a road fork offer me the best comfort.

slightly (very slightly) less zippier than with a track fork, but a bit more comfortable for doing 100 miles a week.

A modern road frame is only 0.5 to 1 degree off a track frame so already has the best of both worlds. Modern road frames are also zippy.

The only reason I prefer track frames is the aesthetic - no brake hole drillings, tighter clearances etc,. Have to say the difference in comfort and handling is negligible.

A modern road frame is only 0.5 to 1 degree off a track frame so already has the best of both worlds. Modern road frames are also zippy.

The only reason I prefer track frames is the aesthetic - no brake hole drillings, tighter clearances etc,. Have to say the difference in comfort and handling is negligible.

It's much like phone booth girls vs soho girls, the difference in satisfaction is minimal, I just prefer the the look of a good phone booth girl. Plus I get to keep the card as a momento so I can wonder what might have been.

My geared bike is a Kinesis and while they might not have the kudos of more flashy kit, they ride brilliantly. No reason why this one would be any different. I'd have one if I had the money.