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Paul-michel - like scott says you do get what you pay for, but in my experience crumpler bags are very capable commuter bages.mine might not be fully water proof but my suit has never got wet, it doesnt have the lovely x strap like scotts but it sits nice and securely on my back even when i get out of the saddle up through greenwich park or over shooters hill, the padding isnt removable but it doesnt seem to smell too badly and i can get most of a weeks shopping into it without any uncomfort, and i've worn it on several long rides with the forum carrying quite large loads (i think cambridge last year was bbout 7 hours in the saddle and at one point i was carrying about 6 liters of water plus a lock and some spare clothes.i would recomend messenger style bags much more than a running back pack as would a lot of other people, and if you choose not to listen then thats your choice!