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  • Ultegra is a good bet. I've got 105 on my gearie and have used Centaur a lot. Centaur has a nice feel so I'd say have a look at it when you're getting the bike. Ultegra or Centaur, as said before, are probably the best bet.

    As for Ultegra SL being worst value for money. Isn't that because it's just the same as Ultegra but a little lighter and more expensive. Waste of money I think. I don't even think of it as a groupset.

    It goes 105, Ultegra, Dura-Ace for Shimano for me. The other's just aren't worth looking into.

    As for Campag I'd say it goes Veloce, Centaur, Chorus.

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