• the ulitmate wouldn't be a bike, it would simply be a frame and then we simply build it up the way we want it.

    I don't agree. I think if the hands-on approach is so important, then why wouldn't a person want to do a whole build, including frame and wheel building?

    Why leave those parts to somebody else?

    Respect to dogsballs, and others, that can wheel-build, but its not wrong to leave a build to professionals, IMO.

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