Feb 2006: Track frameset, no braze-ons, 631 steel, custom vintage zeus fork crown, 2 colors of wet paint (masked lugs/crown/ends), 3 month turnaround. £500/just under $1000 at the time
Jan 2009: fitting 105, frame 1000, fork 160, lug work 80, paint 70. Expected 3 month turnaround (as of August). Total £1415 before tax/VAT. Currently $2056
Condor classico pista: £749 frameset, 2 color paint, deda tubing
Bob jackson OTP vigorelli: £350
When I was in London in August I spoke to Tony, Nick, and Barry about the direction the company is going in and what the deal is with the prices. Nick, the accounting dude seems like he has his head on pretty straight and is in it to keep the company afloat (very difficult in this market). When speaking to Tony (head of design and brand) about Witcomb he honestly believes that their biggest competition is Condor because they're "the other London manufacturer."
I don't have any hard facts or figures to back up my theory that way more people are likely to associate Witcomb with Bob Jackson and Mercian and the like but this and every other thread I've ever seen on the net seem to confirm that. I didn't say anything to homeboy while I was there but if Witcomb wants to keep it's shit around they're figure out that a 3 month waiting list for a $2k steel bike ain't gonna cut it when guys like Johnny Coast are putting rides out for less and have a 3 year waiting list. Supply and demand son.
Feb 2006: Track frameset, no braze-ons, 631 steel, custom vintage zeus fork crown, 2 colors of wet paint (masked lugs/crown/ends), 3 month turnaround. £500/just under $1000 at the time
Jan 2009: fitting 105, frame 1000, fork 160, lug work 80, paint 70. Expected 3 month turnaround (as of August). Total £1415 before tax/VAT. Currently $2056
Condor classico pista: £749 frameset, 2 color paint, deda tubing
Bob jackson OTP vigorelli: £350
When I was in London in August I spoke to Tony, Nick, and Barry about the direction the company is going in and what the deal is with the prices. Nick, the accounting dude seems like he has his head on pretty straight and is in it to keep the company afloat (very difficult in this market). When speaking to Tony (head of design and brand) about Witcomb he honestly believes that their biggest competition is Condor because they're "the other London manufacturer."
I don't have any hard facts or figures to back up my theory that way more people are likely to associate Witcomb with Bob Jackson and Mercian and the like but this and every other thread I've ever seen on the net seem to confirm that. I didn't say anything to homeboy while I was there but if Witcomb wants to keep it's shit around they're figure out that a 3 month waiting list for a $2k steel bike ain't gonna cut it when guys like Johnny Coast are putting rides out for less and have a 3 year waiting list. Supply and demand son.