• uh oh feel like im going down here... but not without a fight :) I was just quoting eddy 'the God' Merckx in my initial comment.

    In terms of sprinting core strength no doubt vital for effective power development, but for less explosive parts of cycling even getting out the saddle up a hill helps with basic core stability... pro cyclists (dunno much about track riders) literally spend years of there lives on bikes, unlike say rowing where gym work is given a near equal status to water time, that is just not the case in cycling. Like I said cross training can be usefull but I would say unless you are a sprinter, it pails into insignificance next to just getting the miles done, so assuming you only have a set amount of time to train for your cat 2 race or whatever, what im saying is spend it on your bike in the hills not in the gym.

    Surely in group riding having to go mental down a hill is incredibly rare as once your on someones wheel there is no way they are going anywhere, you can pretty much coast and stick with them?

    this comment ""train with a goal in mind". different goals require very different training approaches" is the most sensible on this thread

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