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  • Astana is also a 'new city' in a kind of weird way. Only half is new build, they want to be a freight-city rather than eco-city and they want to be like berlin rather than canberra (the really strange bit canberra is an excellently planned city).

    have you actually been to canberra?

    it's just that canberra is incredibly reliant on cars, which doesn't seem to fit with your previous comments...

    it's also soulless, but that's probably just because it's full of bureaucrats.

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