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• #52
yeh also in the wet brakes are useless and with fixed you're sorted
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• #53
also, no one has said :
it keeps you warmer in the cold weather. legs never stop, you don't freeze to death coasting down hills.
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• #54
riding in the wet is shite. Lizard.
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• #55
i hope im not repeating anyone but in terms of wet conditions caliper brakes on road bikes, regardless of pad choice and groupset, have vastly reduced purchase on the rim. ultegra and chorus brakes i have used will be 50percent less effective at stopping and as the aluminum-wet powder crap builds up and this worsens during wet rides. A fixed drivetrain allows the majority of decelaration to be done without skidding and even during wet conditions the tyre and road friction from a skid seems to remain effective in comparison to the concentrated and lubricated area of a brake pad on metal.
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• #56
i hope im not repeating anyone but in terms of wet conditions caliper brakes on road bikes, regardless of pad choice and groupset, have vastly reduced purchase on the rim. ultegra and chorus brakes i have used will be 50percent less effective at stopping and as the aluminum-wet powder crap builds up and this worsens during wet rides. A fixed drivetrain allows the majority of decelaration to be done without skidding and even during wet conditions the tyre and road friction from a skid seems to remain effective in comparison to the concentrated and lubricated area of a brake pad on metal.
I've been told that cleaning the braking surface with acetate (nail varnish remover) massively reduces brake slipage in the wet... I have some lovely peach flavoured stuff... don't know if it works but it makes the bike and I smell nice for a few minutes!
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• #57
i hope im not repeating anyone but in terms of wet conditions caliper brakes on road bikes, regardless of pad choice and groupset, have vastly reduced purchase on the rim. ultegra and chorus brakes i have used will be 50percent less effective at stopping and as the aluminum-wet powder crap builds up and this worsens during wet rides. A fixed drivetrain allows the majority of decelaration to be done without skidding and even during wet conditions the tyre and road friction from a skid seems to remain effective in comparison to the concentrated and lubricated area of a brake pad on metal.
Wet descent? I'll take the brakes over trying to slow down with my legs. Thanks.
Remember it's often not the braking force that's the issue, it's the tyre's grip. You don't want to be locking up brakes in the wet so not having awesome pad-rim grip is a good thing. -
• #58
i just take it slow in the wet and dont go for a singular skid to stop... dont bomb down hills and alike. both is helpful and thats why im not confident enough to go brakeless. i still try to avoid the brake in the wet...
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• #59
i hope im not repeating anyone but in terms of wet conditions caliper brakes on road bikes, regardless of pad choice and groupset, have vastly reduced purchase on the rim. ultegra and chorus brakes i have used will be 50percent less effective at stopping and as the aluminum-wet powder crap builds up and this worsens during wet rides. A fixed drivetrain allows the majority of decelaration to be done without skidding and even during wet conditions the tyre and road friction from a skid seems to remain effective in comparison to the concentrated and lubricated area of a brake pad on metal.
What I tend to do is drag the brakes gentley to get the crap/water off the rim. I am rarely going fast on a racer in the rain anyway.
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• #60
Wet descent? I'll take the brakes over trying to slow down with my legs. Thanks.
Remember it's often not the braking force that's the issue, it's the tyre's grip. You don't want to be locking up brakes in the wet so not having awesome pad-rim grip is a good thing.plus, the wet act almost like an ABS for bike, squeeze it hard and it won't bite hard until rotated a couple time, the difference is usually stopping an extra 2-4 metres than usual.
mind you in the wet, don't people slow down a little? a bit of a moot point, unless you're a raging menace hacking through traffic on oil-spilled road to knock on death's door.
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• #61
Watched the Guildford town centre road race in the thunderous rain last summer and interestingly the riders reduced their tyre tyre pressure to 80psi to gain more adhesion on the slippery cobbles.
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• #62
you could see them do it? they all got off and let out a bit of air when they reached the cobbles?
seriously though, i'd hate to ride up Guildford high street in the wet, it'd be like Paris-Roubaix!
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• #63
Yes and I think there were only 2 tumbles. Roche was there and Fast Eddy competing, and the Plowman Craven lot.
Joe Friel recomends fixed winter training in the Cyclists Training Bible. He reckons it develops three key things over winter, aerobic system, strength (staying seated while pushing a gear bigger than you normally would up hills) and speed (spinning like a loon down hills).