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@Danewesley
well i thought id have to use an a-head stem, but if i can get it out i will be using a quill stem, i have tried wd40, a monkey wrench with forks in a vice, smacking it underneath with a steel pole and a hammer. so then i cut it so i could use the frame, but now to save cash i want to use the forks....i read on some others to pour coke down it but i dont see how this will work, i think i will just drill it out. it sounds simple enouh.