eBay and Craigslist finds

Want. One day I will own a tommasini, and my world will be complete.

It amazes me on a daily basis how many fucksticks we get on here thinking they know better, they try and sell single brake single speeds, awful conversions and try and fob it off to us as 'the latest track bike craze that's hitting london from the states' i mean come on have a fucking look around yeah? the names and faces, with pictures of all our rides surely would let you know that we all have a pretty good idea of how to put a bike together, no? or is it just me?

i don't confess to to be the be all and end all of bicycle mechanics but i know enough of what i'm talking about, and when some one on the forum spots some one trying to pull a fast one on the back of fashionable bikes and calls them up on it, they then come on here with a identical user name claiming to be some one else and get all fucking shitty about be rumbled. It's fucking bollocks.

you wouldn't spray a astra red and sell it as a fucking ferrari at a owners club and expect to get away with it would you? so why do you think it will wash on a bike forum?

slack.

i stand by what i have said here.

I've been commuting on a 1984 super prestige for a few weeks while I save up for the geary bits and retire it for sunday rides only. But it's soooooooo nice to ride, I don't want to stop! Makes my 501 pug seem like a cast iron mtb in comparison.

The Sintesi is the only one with track ends...it's very pretty ;)

That's not track ends... but it is a nice looking frame.

That's not track ends... but it is a nice looking frame.

Must have confused it with the other Sintesi:

The braze on for the front derailleur kind of gives it away as well...d'oh! I blame the poor photography chopping them out of the frame, leaving just enough for me *to *think I can see what's happening.

I stand by the fact that this is a rideable classic - it's an old English frame, not some robot built badge-engineered Taiwanese thing.

At least Taiwanese robots can put track ends on straight.

This may be a repost/relist but i haven't cheaked this thread in a while:

This little pearler was spotted in a bike shop in Western Orrrstraylia

has joe bought it already then waynester?

that's a beaut

I would love a Tommasini, they come at the very top of my 'i want' frames list.

And Jack White... if you're reading this, get in touch! This could be the White Stripes track bike!!!

The ebay description is an eye opener for the forkendsgate frame up there^. Bewildering, I feel like the only person who could find the right words to describe it's stupidity would be the Fixie HHSB Charlie Brookerlike.

Where's Lake of Darkness when you need him?

banned from London?

I think the expression is:

You Are F*****g Fired From London!!!

It amazes me on a daily basis how many fucksticks we get on here thinking they know better, they try and sell single brake single speeds, awful conversions and try and fob it off to us as 'the latest track bike craze that's hitting london from the states' i mean come on have a fucking look around yeah? the names and faces, with pictures of all our rides surely would let you know that we all have a pretty good idea of how to put a bike together, no? or is it just me?

i don't confess to to be the be all and end all of bicycle mechanics but i know enough of what i'm talking about, and when some one on the forum spots some one trying to pull a fast one on the back of fashionable bikes and calls them up on it, they then come on here with a identical user name claiming to be some one else and get all fucking shitty about be rumbled. It's fucking bollocks.

you wouldn't spray a astra red and sell it as a fucking ferrari at a owners club and expect to get away with it would you? so why do you think it will wash on a bike forum?

slack.

My first chance to check this post or respond, so apologies for the delay... and it appears the rage is still there!

Slack, just so we're clear... I didn't come on here to try and sell anything. The bike was advertised on eBay.

I'm pulling a 'fast anything'.

I just came on here to find out why I got an unsolicited and blunt email to my eBay account about the bike.

Seems fair enough... I like that people have greater knowledge and I think it's good if they want to share that, but an email saying something like "NIce looking bike, but just wanted to let you know that I think it might be a converted road frame..." then going on to explain the difference would have been better tha the blunt one I originally got.

Dogsballs is from Tasmania.
I hope that goes some way to explaining both his seemingly boorish manner and his flagrant over-use of exclamation marks.
EDIT - welcome to the forum! :-)

'tis true you know

i did explain the difference, you had both hands over your ears though.

bike won't sell for £600, lucky to get £350-400.

Dogs has probably built more bikes this year alone (for his own pleasure) than your little business exterprise has built all told. If I was you I would stick around listen and learn. Your copywriting is spot on but if you are going to make money on e-bay you have to be an expert in the product you sell. If had bought that bike for £600 and it arrived with dodgy fucking ends that would be your seller rep up in smoke. Don't take it personal just accept that we know what the fuck we are talking about.

I also wanted to say thanks to Motti for at least suggesting that I should be able to 'fight my corner'.

I feel like trying to respond to all these pointless digs in one go, but I know I can't and it's frustrating the hell out of me.

But to open up... this one's to you TheSmilingBuddha: how am I not supposed to "take it personal" when you start with the line "Dogs has probably built more bikes this year alone (for his own pleasure) than your little business exterprise has built all told".

Of course I'll take it personally! I've been riding, racing and building bikes "for my own pleasure" since 1980.

FYI - the bike I'm selling on eBay was a personal build (originally for me). I bought the frame from an LFGSS member who did vouch for me on another thread. I originally planned to build the bike for my own collection, but a friend of mine fell in love with it at the beginning of the summer and I built it for him. Sadly he was killed in an RTA in August in Dorset (NOT RIDING THIS BIKE) which means I still have the bike.

I'm NOT a business or 'exteptise' as you stated. I make this point quite clear in my eBay ad - again frustrating as there is FAR TOO much ranting speculating on who I am and questioning my motives.

I'd like to think that like you guys, I'm an enthusiast who has a passion for bikes. Not some no mark who's attempting to jump on the band wagon!

And to your point:"If had bought that bike for £600 and it arrived with dodgy fucking ends that would be your seller rep up in smoke."

I'm completely in agreement with you, but let's be honest I didn't think I would be selling this as a complete bike to the type of person who's on LGFSS... the majority of whom are (I'm assuming based on what I've read) knowldegable, opinionated, individuals who know their kit and most likely (like me) would prefer to source parts and build their own bike to their own personal spec.

In short, I was pretty sure guys like you wouldn't want to buy it as a complete anyway.

A fair assumption?

I genuinely joined LGFSS as I thought it was a 'community' and the idea of a community was a gathering of like minds with like interests. Yes... I accept that some people will know more than others, and I agree that a community should be self-regulating, but this 'exclusive' attitude seems demented. This might as well be The Masons' forum.

You've made assumptions about the frame based on what you've seen in a photo and one other members cycnical and, I feel, somewhat unprovoked attack on an item I'm genuinely trying to sell on eBay.

Furthermore, you've then made the assumption that I know nothing about the subject matter. Why?

Because I'm a newb on the forum?

Because I don't post regularly?

So should I conversely, therefore, assume that to be taken seriously or given any courtesy on LGFSS you have to have been a long-standing member or possess and ride something utterly unique and very rare, and only then will your validity be unquestioned? Makes it kind of difficult to attempt to become part of something if you're stone-walled.

Bit sad... seems a very conservative, stuck up attitude. Bit like a bunch of rich kids or an old school tie network.

The sort of thing I would have thought a group of intelligent, knowledgeable individuals who favour an alternative approach to life would collectively be against.

I can't stand the idea of bowing to peer pressure, but if it means I can avoid having my eBay inbox clogged up with uninvited judgements I'll change the wording to read 'track inspired' bike.

you are full of shit.

Slack, back off.
Paris, water under the bridge. Welcome to the forum.

to be honest i think there is nothing wrong with that frame, the angles look right, the forks angle is spot on. and have seen drop-outs like those on so called "proper" track bikes often enough.
i don't think it is a conversion.

and welcome paris.

"I'm completely in agreement with you, but let's be honest I didn't think I would be selling this as a complete bike to the type of person who's on LGFSS..."

that imo is basically admitting that this bike is aimed at some one who does not know what they are buying and will believe that this is a genuine track bike, only to find out they have bought a conversion then be stuck with something that they paid way over the odds for.

welcome to the forum and all but don't lie then expect instant forgiveness when you get caught.

because then it's not a fucking track frame is it darling, it's a road frame with track ends isn't it? 130 spacing, slacker angels (© Condor), drilled for brakes. There for, not a track frame.

And one more thing Slack... to your previous quote which AGAIN includes an assumption and accuses me of lack of knowledge:

"it's a road frame... 130 spacing, slacker angels (© Condor), drilled for brakes. There for, not a track frame..."

Thanks for the info, shame you didn't point out that it could have been 126 or even a 120 spacing tho, given its age. That would have displayed knowledge.

And FYI - the rear spacing is 110. Sorry to disappoint you.

And the rear bridge was never drilled for a brake, sorry again.

And 'slacker angles' OK fair enough.

Not sure if you were alleging that Condor build their track bikes with slacker angles with your "© Condor" dig? Does that mean in your opinion that Condor track frames aren't proper track frames either? They might have an opinion on that.