Nothing is new!

probably my throat hurts. alcoholl does not do that does it?

probably my throat hurts. alcoholl does not do that does it?

No, alcohol makes you stronger. This must be AIDs.

well thats settled.

no need to doctors.

Good, because he was wrong about lots of things, most things.

And he was a foreigner.

My interest is completely academic (largely interested in his particular method of idea transmission in practice [i.e. the written dialogue and the complicated relationship between the characters, the author, and the reader]). A lot has been written about this kind of stuff lately, and it's interesting stuff. Although it's less well received in the UK.

Although, that being said, I do think Plato's proto-psychological explanation of the soul is both, fascinating and useful. As a visualization technique of one's desires, and the recognition of a possible self-ideal, I could see it being used as a self-help tool.

My interest is completely academic (largely interested in his particular method of idea transmission in practice [i.e. the written dialogue and the complicated relationship between the characters, the author, and the reader]). A lot has been written about this kind of stuff lately, and it's interesting stuff. Although it's less well received in the UK.

I am all for dialectics, but it's when it starts to get bogged down in the metaphysical mire that it just becomes words.

Although, that being said, I do think Plato's proto-psychological explanation of the soul is both, fascinating and useful.

and wrong.

As a visualization technique of one's desires, and the recognition of a possible self-ideal, I could see it being used as a self-help tool.

Tell that to Chris Crash, he is the one who needs help, he's the one with AIDs.

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Mosque level 4, repeat, mosque level 4.

I am all for dialectics, but it's when it starts to get bogged down in the metaphysical mire that it just becomes words.

The metaphysics and myths need to be understood within the structure of the dialogue being read. They change from one to the next. There is a large community of Plato scholars who are convinced he was an atheist.

and wrong.

Being wrong doesn't make it false ;) That's what is great about Plato. Any lie his characters may tell (and they tell many of them) offers something beyond the myth itself which is likely to have a philosophical underpinning and pragmatic usefulness.

Of course, one could just say: "but it's a lie!". Fair enough, but one thing I think we can say about Plato with a certain certainty was the he was an elitist. Not everyone is able to escape the cave. Nonetheless, the knowledge of the "real" should still be useful to everyone. It's just a question of getting this knowledge out there. Enter the Myth of Err (or one of the many other Myths).

This may offend people, but that alone shouldn't result in one ignoring what is the (from Plato's perspective) truth behind the lie.

Tell that to Chris Crash, he is the one who needs help, he's the one with AIDs.

Really? I'll sacrifice a cock for his health.

This isn't mosque level talk. We're just shooting this shit about a well-dead white guy who may or may not have been wrong about everything.

Being wrong doesn't make it false ;)

Damn ! Caught out by an epistemological wild card. :)

Not everyone is able to escape the cave.

It's all shadows to me.

Really? I'll sacrifice a cock for his health.

This whole *'cock graft cures AIDs' * thing is nothing more than witch craft, the only thing that cures AIDs is intercessory prayer.

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Better do what Beardy McPhilosopher says.

To polo with me!

Will in 'courier learns photoshop basics' shocker ! :)

Better do what Beardy McPhilosopher says.

To polo with me!

But are you really "going" to 'polo' ?

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