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@Festerban
Looks like a failed venture then, I was talking about this to someone and he's willing to GIVE me his old trick frame now that he's got a new build up and running, 70 quid was good but not as good as free ;). With regards to the ripping off issue. I was of in the same boat as everyone else, would love to get a BMW but have nowhere near the cash as well as not knowing if I would really be getting maximum use out of a bike that would mainly be for using when bored, hence buying a cheapo machine with a view to buying a proper jobby if it turned out that I used it all the time. As someone else stated, a bike is more than it's geo, a bmw is obviously superior in all ways. If anything doing things this way may have gotten an *extra *for BMW as I may have liked the bike so much but wanted to get the real deal that I would have ended up getting one rather than wondered about it but decided against it due to cost to use weigh ups.
/2 cents