• custom made? but that just a beater with new part.

    if you can, try and get all the part yourself and simply hand them all to your LBS to built it up for you, it´s noticably cheaper than having your LBS getting the part as well as building it, especially rims for instance that usually cost 35 quids in shop are only 25-30 on the internet.

    Thanks

    Yep, didn't want to say custom made, but customized, just putting my touch.
    I was thinking surly as it's reliable, strong as a bull, and good compromise between city rides and mid-range commute.

    GA2G, you're right, the solidity of the frame is an appeal, as well as surly long lasting reputation.

    What else would you see as alternate?

    ( I eyed the condor pista for sometime, would get a Masi if they were available in Europe, or even the fixie inc Peacemaker if I wanted to go a bit crazy)

    I don't want abike that screams steals me neither...

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