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  • Sorry BlueQuinn et al but the study to which you refer has been shown to be flawed and the results unreliable.study.

    By the LCC. Who you might say have their own agenda.

    Nobody else who looked at the study found it anything but extremely conclusive. Indeed there were inbuilt flaws trying to skew the data against allowing motorcyclists into bus lanes, such as not accounting for a massive decrease in incidents even though there was a big increase in motorcyclists using the study roads specifically because they were allowed in the bus lanes.

    for example one of the things the LCC did was argue that on the A13 since the motorcycles had entered bus lanes there had been a massive drop in the number of cyclists on that road, claiming that it was taken out of the study to hide this fact. Anyone who looked at the A13 would know that the reason both the number of cyclists in the bus lane dropped to virtually nil, and that the road ceased to be relevant to the study, was that they built a big wide cycle lane in addition to the bus lane.

    Either way, this is an 18 month (max) temporary evaluation. if it works then everybody wins. If it fails then cyclists win.

    On the advance stop line thing, well perception is everything. Most road users ignore them including motorbikes (and cycles who usually sail straight past them), but at least if there are motorbikes in there there is probably room for cyclists too. As I said, I personally respect them and keep out unless (and it's a big unless) my safety is better served by entering it (Admiralty Arch onto Trafalgar Square comes to mind) and I will never block a cyclist coming up behind me if I have room to get out of their way. Neither will I intimidate one in front of me. I'll give them all the time in the world and proceed when it is safe. With luck if the motorbikes are in the bus lane then maybe they won't be in the ASL.

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