Half-radial Spoke Pattern

flickwg depends if its over under over or under under over ;)

only idiots do over under over :p

dogsballs no thats what i suggest!! mine has two radial in the middle.

so is yours like this

If so, do you use the same length as 3x spokes for the crossing spokes?

yep, although i alternated in/out. i suggest go both radial in, then crossing out; or vice versa. yep 260 radial, 280 3-x

dogsballs [quote]flickwg depends if its over under over or under under over ;)

only idiots do over under over :p[/quote]

He of course means over over under.
Damn newbie wheel builders...

;) yeah!

I'm old school man!
So old school that I've forgotten how :]

At least I've remembered for my own wheels.

Object At least I've remembered for my own wheels.

hehe.

:]

dogsballs yep, although i alternated in/out. i suggest go both radial in, then crossing out; or vice versa. yep 260 radial, 280 3-x

cool, thanks mate.

gabes dogs: is your rear like this?

That's what I have, front and rear.

dogsballs
here's another one 3 lead, 1 trail (should've swapped on the other side though)

Re. 3 lead 1 trail, that's just asking for trouble, even if you swap to 1l 3t on the other side, all sorts of unequal torsion forces going on. Nasty.

I can vouch for the crows foot and 3l 3t. Gabes, so far my 3l 3t on 36h hub has been bombproof - not just aesthetics.

ChrisNW [quote]dogsballs
Re. 3 lead 1 trail, that's just asking for trouble, even if you swap to 1l 3t on the other side, all sorts of unequal torsion forces going on. Nasty.

i'd never use for rear, front is fine, just a matter as i said of swap on the other side. it lasted for a month or two on my polo bike, until i relaced with opposite angled radial and twisted the hub, shitty ambrosia hubs :(

Couple of questions on this stuff. Is 2 lead, 2 trail OK for the rear? What spoke length should I go with (same as X2 or X3 or something else).

Also, on that hybrid 32 crows foot, obviously the radials are radial, but are the crossed length as 1 cross or 2 cross?

on double crow's foot, 2 are radial length, other 2 are 3x length.

all i just read looked like:

jibba jabba 3 jibba jabba crow jibba jabba length

go sit in goal and shut up!

Couple of questions on this stuff. Is 2 lead, 2 trail OK for the rear? What spoke length should I go with (same as X2 or X3 or something else).

Also, on that hybrid 32 crows foot, obviously the radials are radial, but are the crossed length as 1 cross or 2 cross?
2 lead 2 trail is the same as 1x (or a tad more), this is why mine ended up twisted as spokes were too long.

double crows foot is radial and 3 x

Cheers, I love the way 2l 2t looks, think I'll have a go. If not default to crows

I built hybrid crow's foot but still haven't ridden on one. Is it really a noticeable difference in the ride? Is there really an improvement in the transmission? I might relace my rear. But then it has stayed true as a 3-cross for over 2 years so almost feel like it's bad luck to touch it.