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  • a fully built reynolds 631 frame fixed wheel bicycles is still lighter than an fully built 853 frame MTB, at least that what I think.[/QUOTE]

    sure, that's what you'd expect - i'm really talking about how good a frame you're getting with 631 as i've ridden 853 on last 2 mtb's and it's fucking crazy.

    i believe u can get a jackson with the 853 tubeset but i'd imagine it'd be more than £345

    where i'm going with this to keep things on topic is how far you could improve on my capo project with the same £800 budget.

    the capo is i believe CAAD5 tubing. wasn't that cannodale's top-end pipe a couple of years ago? sure steel and alu are a completely different experience, but is a 631 jackson a tangibly better performing frame?

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