Don't really care about the first part of your post, cause I don't understand your question.
The second part on the other hand, I can highly recommend a second hand Fizik Pave Ti in black and grey. I also know where you can get one for loads less than 20 quid :-)
Don't really care about the first part of your post, cause I don't understand your question.
The second part on the other hand, I can highly recommend a second hand Fizik Pave Ti in black and grey. I also know where you can get one for loads less than 20 quid :-)